close, 359 at 14 psi and 292 lbs of torque

best thing about it though is, my fuel system has plenty wiggle room to go, i think he said it was at about 70% duty cycle.. its just the turbos wont last long on anymore pressure

Dave loved how hard my car pulled, he even tempted me to up the boost haha

long story short, ill have no issues what so ever hitting next milestones power goals once i get there

oh, btw Brian, Dave loved the seats, especially since he had customers tell him theres no way to make them fit :)

my next step is better cooling, either i do what benny was intending on doing now..plus get dual oil coolers

or i do some crazy amount of ducting...and get dual oil coolers lol

so i think you can see where my next step lies hahaha


oh yea, dyno sheets posted soon

Don't worry. I'm still not in a rush about it. I'm actually trying to thin my crap before I move... speaking of which I need to post up a new FS thread with pictures this time around. I'll do that after I post up what I did for you.

It does, but it doesn't really matter since it's a hose fitting on the other end, meaning it can swivel on the hose. So you can make it out of a solid piece of aluminium, which all things considered is dead sexy. ;)

Welp, check out the attachments. I did the analysis and from what I can tell you're no where near yield. I mean you hit 9.something ksi and displace maybe 0.016 inches (i'd have to double check the scale), but this is over kill engineering for you... hmmm... possible new name? :squint:

I'm still not 100% on the dimensions, but it's fully dimensioned which means if you want it in a different size 2 seconds and it's done. How do you like dem apples? About the only other thing I could do to make the results even more accurate is simulate the remote force from an off concentric load (ie COM of the fuel pump just hanging out on the side), but in all honesty it's not going to do much of anything in both displacement and stress on the piece.

Thanks much man, where did you stop? Did you see the pics of the car rotating? Or the rot cut out? Or just hit the end with the fuel cell from hell?

Dave's got a sexy sexy FD for sure.... and yes, I know quite a few Dave's :rofl:

350? psssssshhhhhhh, 400 or nothing......... next I'll be saying 500 or nothing :eek:

Nice numbers indeed. Close to 300ft/lbs is nothing to sneeze at :icon_tup:

You should be able to hit 400 on that fuel system. I like to keep things to ~75% duty but can definately go higher. Last year mine was @ 93% :leaving:

Who told him that? Keyboard jockeys that don't know how to rock a plasma? People crack me up sometimes.... then again I have a knack for stuffing things where they don't belong. My nickname is the Himenator for good reason :smilielol5: Hopefully they were comfy for him, he should be in mine tomorrow. Still need to put the front clip on, dash surround, wipers, stereo, adjust the exhaust system (hangers are too close to the fuel cell) wire up the speed signals, wash the car, yes it will be happening ~3am if I'm lucky, shower and hit the road - REDBULL DON'T FAIL ME NOW! I have three of the big mothers in the fridge :rofl:

Do it over the winter if ever. It'll give us plenty of time to plan it out, gather parts, we can use my FD for test fitment/mock-up if need be but I'm not a fan of PJ's like that over the summer. I want to be enjoying my FC and working on the XJ although it rarely happens like that. Not to mention I have a backlog till about october which is both good and bad I guess...... and the vert should be here soon too assuming the FC gets a clean bill of health tomorrow, Limerock Thursday, suss out the rear wheel speed sensors and then at some point trade tranny's so the Vert has one and install the wheel speed sensors then the FC is done, till next time.

Don't up the boost though, the turbo's really don't last very long at those levels. Mine are starting to leak/smoke slightly. I'm hoping that it clears up but I doubt it will. I may be in the mkt for a new set very soon :(

I hear that my friend.


That looks awesome T. A little long but year looks fantastic. All the engineering is impressive. in reality though, there will be very little stress on the part as the pump is supported pretty well and not allowed to move much if any at all, I like it:icon_tup:

For who????? :smilielol5: :squint:

Well, as soon as I double check the -AN stuff I can make it any size you want... Bet you never heard that before ;)

;)

I sure like to wink at you... Must be the car.

:lol: My car is a prissy little attention WHORE! and now with a fucked rear end...... so if anyone has a 4.11 ring and pinion kicking around... I need one. Car goes nowhere till I can get one.:(

well if you would quit touching it in all the right ways maybe your prissy attention whore would learn to behave herself:rofl:

Hmmm, that fuel cell looks very familiar. Wonder where you got that idea.

Seriously, it looks good B. My TII finally arrives tomorrow, so, hopefully, my son and I can get this thing finished up soon.

Keep up the good work.

Todd B.

yea it seems that way, though next big set of mods i do ill probably upgrade my secondaries and fuel pump anyways, just to have a little more cushion...gona talk to dave about those 2k injectors on the pfc :001_005:



yea no kidding, its one of the reasons why most people have cars that are just like everyone elses, hard to be unique when your telling yourself it cant be done all the time

im always down for trying something custom on my car :)



oh yea definetly, i know how busy you are, plus i definetly dont want to put my FD to sleep when i just got the damn thing running great! lol....and...i need to save up monies anyways :rofl: ....and get a beater....

but yea i definetly want to do it, especially since it shouldnt be all that hard....the majority of the work i did already from installing the setup i have now. so theres plenty of room to play with


oh yea i defintly know that, especially from my first set....and then talking with Dave...he tempted me but i resisted....especially after he told me how long they lasted when he upped them to 17psi for another customer....which was all of 3 months :rofl:

this reminds me, that i still have to post up the dyno sheets...and pics dennis took of me when we were driving down to rotormania... we rolled in so hard core we had our own camera car lmao!

Sorry... I couldn't help myself. She was bending over and not wearing any panties... so I did what any normal man would do. I piidb.:seeya:

:smilielol5: She does need a spanking. Although first with the nice weather, a day off, and some time to think I'll be heading outside to wash, compound, glaze and wax her. Naughty girl

Yup yup, those 2" AL tubes that I stole from you worked out perfectly. I mounted them so they wedge in between the mounting "blocks" that the factory straps mount to. I had to build my own straps with a little padding and the fit is so snug that I can jam the thing in place and it stays without the straps. Pretty cool. A few days ago I went and looked for your pics, they're moved....

Nice, that should be a badass ride when it's done. Good luck Todd.

I need to take a few more measurements in the next few days and send you a few files. It's time to nail down these rear trigger wheels and get them off to you for some cutting and plating.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Although I will say that the idle is SUPERB with the new ID injectors....... I couldn't believe it. Perfect 950rpm, I love 'em thus far. Oh, and there was alot of bitching towards me over on the evil forum about never being able to get the transition right... Idiots, all of them. Didn't even need to adjust anything after I reconfigured the MoTeC for the different sized injectors. What a bunch of keyboard mechanics.


:rolleyes: Exactely. Anything can be done, well almost anything.

Ah, I thought you were talking VMIC :naughty:

Yeah, I tend to drive around @ 10psi and then up it when it's time to play. I've got that little trim knob to go from 10-15psi in 9 equal increments. Pretty badass.

:rofl: Nice, I need a new ring and pinion so I can start playing.

Can't blame ya.

Fuel cell is obviously done and installed and as far as I can tell, working just great so I thought I'd share the last few pics of this nightmarish RE-REbuild... that's well, not entirely finished just yet. Problems from the first few miles are as follows
Rear end is fragged
The front right ABS knuckle that I picked up is out of shape and causing the rotor to contact the caliper. Yes, that is accurate. I though after I put everything back together that it was a frozen caliper becuase it wouldn't turn. So I bought a new caliper, bled it and the problem was still there. WTF? Fuck it, maybe with some heat she'll loosen up. What a fucking NOISE! Investigated and found the problem. Chewed into the caliper by ~.05". I removed the shim so it would work but still need a new knuckle. Bill's getting a PM shortly.
T/O bearing making some noise - not so concerend because I still need to get that 6-spd in.
Front heat shield for the cell.
better install on the Alpine PDX-5
New battery. I'm starting to hate Optima batteries.

So, onto the last few set's of pics.

I decided to be a baller and get some Mil-Spec fuel cell bulkhead connectors. in hindsight, they're dead sexy, but very pricey. Whatever. I got a tip from the engineers @ MoTeC - Crimp the wires, solder the terminals - cool The terminals are rated @ 13A. That's about what these pumps draw so I decided to double up on them. THe white and 3rd black wire run to a MetriPack connector so I can measure fuel pump voltage AT the pump while running. Pretty badass I think.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276785650

Completed pic of the Bosch pump. It's still loud, but I can live with it....... for now.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276785650

Completed pic of Denso pump, still quite, still love it.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276785650

Look at that heatshrink. WTF is wrong with Raychem, that'll never fit right. BASTARDS!!!!!!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276785650

oh wait - nmd - I still love those guys :rofl:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276785650

The completed cell. Just need to get some connectors on the end of the harness and she be done.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276786029

Filler. filler vent, rollover/atmosphere vent

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276786029

Access to denso pump. I wasn't about to cut into the floor pan, in hindsight I should've, and if I find myself needing access to the Bosch pump or the sender I probably will. but for now, negatory.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276786029

I still need a few pics of the underside :D Looks pretty cool from the back ;)

Replying shortly....


Finally, my band-wagon is getting heavy. I have found optima batteries to be a huge PIA. I actually use Exide gel cells now... heavy, but affective.

Blah, I tried the Exides as well and had the same problems. They do NOT like slow draws at all. I've checked and rechecked and I have no shorts but a few things that are constantly on - alarm, radio mem, etc etc. When they die, they're dead. I got a year out of this one, I guess that's alright. I've had them in my DD's for YEARS, and they will last when constantly being charged. But I think they suck balls for project cars. We've had the same problem in my buddies Landy. THe guys kept leaving the battery switched on - Painless Performance remote battery disco - well that fucker pulls about an amp. So when you leave the battery on, you're constantly killing it. THe battery that they said was completely dead was, and we swapped it out. But it now lives on in my XJ and has been fine for months now. The thing to do maybe to keep a trickle charger on it at all times. I dunno. Easy fix though, others not so much.

Exactly! Thats the same issue I've always had... slow draws and wont take a recharge to save their life. It sucks because if you have a purpose built car/truck that sits for a week at a time, they never last and at $100+ a pop, its no fun...

I'll be addressing the battery issue for the FC later, but I think the trickle charger as you say is the only real solution for now...

Either a trickle charge or COMPLETELY disco the battery. But that defeats the purpose of alarms and radio mem's. In a track car it's fine. Setup the disco on the negative side and you'll NEVER have an issue. I've had them hold a charge in storage over a winter doing that. But two+ weeks with a slow drain.... <1A, and they're fucked.

Glad to know I'm not the only one.

Maybe the answer is to actually drive the car :rofl:

Dude i had the same problem with my red top. The first time i re worked my front end in the body shop ( it didnt sit for that long) the damn thing was completely dead. I was kinda shocked. Ive tried braile batteries. I still have one of their lightweight carbon race batteries. Its pretty cool. CCA is really low and i think the CA was only around 700 something. but they make bigger ones too i think.

BTW fuel cell looks super.

brian...i was talking about a VMIC setup.... :)

i was saying that since i did the FMIC setup that most of the work has been done, all thats really needed left is to modify the IC and rad, and make new mounts

i already relocated the battery, and removed all the extra clutter that used to be there, if you remove the IC and rad all thats left is a big hole lol

but like i said, i wana wait till winter when i need to put her to sleep anyways, it would be dumb to do it now when theres still so much nice weather out.

though i swear im gona set the damn car on fire with the way it acts sometimes

If you want the Paul Bunyan of batteries, go with an East Penn Deka Intimidator AGM battery.

I have a Deka ETX16 17lb battery in my fc, been working great so far; I finally installed it in my car after 2 years, it still fired up :)

The red tops suck... the yellow top is where it's at. [EDIT]: I'm not completely sure how it works, but the yellow optima is designed for people with heavy sound systems, and people that tend to drain their batery often... I have abused the shit out of my battery and it still works great. [/Edit]

I hope not to jinx anything, but I've had one ever since my old fc vert and I love it. I would leave the stereo on for 4 hours, leave the lights on for 30 min, leave the car KOEO overnight... pretty much do whatever the fuck I want and it ALWAYS starts... fucking ALWAYS.


So, I dunno what you're talking bout.... mush have bought the wrong battery?:001_005:

It doesn't seem like it takes much A over time to kill these bitches. I dunno. I'm not about to reset my stereo setting everytime I drive the car, nor am I about to leave it disarmed. Whatever, I'll figure something out. Maybe a quick plug in for a trickle charger.

I love how people jump all over the Optima's. They did an awesome job marketing those things for sure.

Thanks Kyle:icon_tup:

SAHWEEEEEET!!!

Gotcha. The intercooler MAY need to go away which wouldn't be a bad thing. Sell it and make some cash. We'll have to see when we mock everyything up. You've got the dual oil-coolers already yes? Can you monitor oil temps with your PFC or no.... no datalogit right?

Big hole that needs to be filled with some custom shit!

No doubt man. I gotta lead on a rear, if it falls through I'm going to buy a new 4.3 rear. In the fall I'm doing my car before anyone elses....... after clients of course ;)

Nice. The only problem is the super sexy billet hold down that I bought was machined specifically for the 75/25 series. I could always move that over to the truck, except I think that's running the 34 series.... sigh. I dunno. I may find a dealer and try to swap the fucker out for a yellow top. If they won't be good about it, and I bought the thing about a year ago, then fuck them. I'll check out that Deka. Is that a gel cell, dry top, no fumes when charging battery? Got the thing mounted in the passenger bin

No, the red one is the standard starting battery. The yellow is a deep cycle that is designed to be able to be brought back from the dead with no issues. The battery shouldn't die if left unattended for a few days though. It's not that I bought the wrong battery, it's that the battery pretty much blows.

actually, if you look closely at the pics here:

http://www.rx7store.net/Vmount_Inter...ntercooler.htm

thats there greddy FMIC replica intercooler that has had the end tanks rewelded....
and i have a real greddy FMIC lol

so if those bobos can do it i dont see why we cant do it better :001_005:

and no i dont have duals yet, its number 1 on my list as of right now. though

and no the PFC cant read oil temps..however ive been told that you see on the PFC a significant drop in your coolant temps when you have duals compared to a single

oh yes im most definetly excited...and yea im slacking with the dyno sheet

hey im in no rush, i would much rather see you get yours running then working on my car that is running already...besides...way i see it, the longer i wait, the more money i get to save up for it :rofl:

and btw on the subject of batteries..at least for the FD, nothing beats the westco miata battery

small enough to fit perfectly in the tiny rear storage bins, yet has some decent CCA...more then enough to start up a rotary...and ive left my radio and rad fans on for a couple hours and havent had any issues starting the car back up

best thing about it though, is if you look hard enough online(like i did ;) ) you can get it for 100 bucks shipped to your door

LOL just having a good laugh at you on the other forum in the "FC proper stance" thread. Fuck that shit is retarted. "How dare you diss my car i roll chameleon bro" "my setups so mad i need 275's to hold the stock turbo" LOL

Fuel cell looks fucking awesome Bri-Bri!

I've got to build the box for my battery too :D

Yeah, the Intimidator is a sealed absorbed glass mat battery, perfect for your passenger bin :)

LOL send me a link to that shit :rofl:

Nice, yeah, there's something to be said about not having to make it easy to make a profit. Plus the FD has alot more brackets and whatnot in the bay for mounting. THe FC has nothing, I had to build my own frame from scratch.

Yup, with so much heat being taken out of the engine by the oil, the cooler that it, the cooler the coolant will be.

Good, 'cuz I'm on borrowed time right now :rofl: So much backed up it's retarded and no time to get it done in. Everytime I think I have a day off, I get called in or something else needs to be done. Like yesterday - went in @ 5:30am to deal with my side shit, everything was going perfect, ready to leave @ 11:30 and spend the day doing my shit. Instead I tossed in and didn't get home until ~12 hours later. 12 hours that I thought I had to get my shit done dissappeared..... Brian was pissed.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do about this shit. I'm liking the Deka idea, I'll have to check out dimensions, the westco I love, but I don't think I can use the tray I have, would have to build one.

I dunno, I'm also going to try a 2 day trickle and see if I can't wake that POS optima up.

Yup, looks like alot of that shit got cleaned up too, kinda defeats the point of that thread I think.... isn't it there to point and laugh at all the fuckwits nutswingers who thing that an 18X22 -q3409i50983745 offset will fit the front and that -55* camber is fine for tire life?

I would really like to have an all drifter event, hype it up sooooooo much that EVERY LAST ONE OF THOSE FANBOI'S ATTENDS, and then nuke it. I hate thier attitude. One of the little fuckers actually told me, "move over old man, new generation coming through," when I pointed out how some analrangers 12"widfe rims wouldn't fit in the rear.

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=902896&page=4

Excellent... I'll have to look up some dimensions and see what's available. Thanks Johnson:icon_tup:

Thanks sweeite :kiss: Now lets hope it works :rofl: Haven't really driven the car all that hard for other reasons, so we'll see in a week or so I guess.

Move over, old fart :lol:

yea pops back the fudge up! this is a new era where were doing things that have never been done before! were going low!
http://blog.al.com/engine-block/2008/04/gypsy_rose.jpg
and we have tons of poke!
http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/membe...02-jeep001.jpg

100% straight up JDM original! never been done before!!! yo

I will cut you, both of you. I will cut you in a way that will alter your gender. ;)

lol sounds like my car.

You'll give them boobs?!

...edit

lost cause.

undo that edit or I'll add you to my cut list ;)

He'll cut you like he cut sodium out of his diet!

I'm pretty sure the sugar more than filled the role of sugar AND sodium :lol: