My thoughts on tuning with EGT here:
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/MODS/EL/GAUGES/egt.htm

I still don't like how hot the EGT's were, especially it's in the lower gears...


If fuel was under control, it has to be ignition timing somehow...
Overly hot intake temps are basically out of the question, since aux injection was used.
Even misfires would register on the P-FC - unless the P-FC was malfunctioning and not showing true knock?

EGT's are still too high for under those conditions.
I would've liked to see them down in the 1300F range or even slightly lower.
I'm not an aux injection guru, so it's hard for me to confirm or dismiss the aux injection as a problem, but I always though the EGT's should come down due to the aux injection...

Do you mind posting your ignition timing #'s under those ranges?

Long shot...do you remember how much torque you guys put through the tension bolts when rebuilding?
Stock Mazda tension bolts, right?
Did you do anything funky with the adapter for the oil supply line to turbo in that same area?
Crush washer, right?
Approximate torque on the adapter?


-Ted

Well from my memory when we rebuilt. we torqued the tension bolts to mazda spec. and in the correct order :)

sorry sean, dont mean to thread jack just tryin to help solve the mystery

I would like to see the ign maps and rough revs/boost at the time of the crack. I still say that the AFR's were too low. I don't like overly rich mixtures.

Besides, I need more ammo in my quest to convince some dumbass to change his mind about some bone head idea :suspect:













:smilielol5:

^

Hate all you want Brian........I am not changing my mind lol. :)

I don't hate the idea of the engine, I just had a huge hand in one. I just think that rebuilding would at least let you enjoy the car WAY sooner. I mean, you're the guy that took what, 9 months to drive 1500 miles? I'll have a garage loaded with an FB, FC, FC vert, FD, and a 26b FD before you get done :kiss:

As far as your goals for the car, yes, that engine does make sense to a point. You won't have any headaches or worries as far as the engine living a long happy life at that power. However, it will take years to get that unsophisticated lump of AL into the bay as cleanly as you have the damn good looking 13b in there.

HAHAHA I beg to differ my friend....see now I have a fire under my ass because I am pissed and RE-motivated. I give my self a year...year and a half tops lol.

I read this the other day and didn't respond immediately. I'm sorry your iron cracked. I'd have to see a lot more info before giving my two cents, but it sounds like ignition related... knock isn't everything.

As for the choice of swap - to each their own, I just get saddened when RE guys are so quick to jump ship. IMHO its killing what the car is when you do that swap, but its not my car and I'll never do it... so more power to ya. Good luck with the next build.

:o11: Are you shitting me dude?! I have stayed loyal for 7 years with 6 motors in that time frame. I should get a fucking medal or something:rofl:

Like I stated earlier....at this point in my life I dont care whats under the hood......I just want to enjoy the FC.

im gonna keep saying it..... you deserve some fun. and you have definitely put in some quality and frustrating time in the RE. I have to say that i have never been the biggest fan of the v8 swap but thats because most ppl that do it that i know of dont even know what the rotary engine is. It seems like its alway muscle car guys that think displacement is everything. you've thoroughly experience the rotary so thats not the case with you.

also, bottom line........

Your car, your choice. Nuff said

Sucks that the engine popped so soon. Look at mine. I had maybe 6 or 8 thousand miles on mine and it destroyed the front rotor bearing. For no good reason.

So I parted it out. (still have your SSR's though :) )

I tinkered with the idea that if I keep the RX-8 longer, and it pops, I would love to put an LSx in it. Problem is, the damn car is CAN, so I would have to re-do EVERYTHING.

Not as fun as an FC/FD swap.

Damn, I'm speechless!

Yeah so was I the first 15 minutes after we pulled the car over.

It sucked balls for sure.................

Not trying to shit you ;)

And by no means am I trying to insult you... I'm just saying 7 years and 6 motors might be some really crap luck. I've had 4 engines (only popped one, two were crap and one was fine, I just sold it) in 10 years and after the last build I learned what to do better on the next one (thus the RE cosmo engine). I think you've got a great setup there and if you rebuild the motor one more time, either stud or pin it.. there is an obvious weak point.

With the experience you've gained in all the RE engines, you should be able to pull that engine out and tear it down pretty quick... give it one more shot :) You can have a solid RE engine much sooner then a V8. Sorry if I'm a hater... but I've always been a purist.


And for the record, I love V8s. In a truck. Or a boat. :)


Good luck on whatever direction you take man....

turbos are bad mmkay

the day she cracked on us was the day my NA idea finalized in my head.......mmkkkaayy

I wanna buy them Kidneys MmmKay....

i like my NA rotaries.

but we have this GXL shell that would be a primo LS swap. after owning about 16 rotaries, damn it i feel like i can see whats the hoopla is about.

i really dont want to part with them but it seems like the only option... or going on who wants to be a millionare\


I think you are gonna LOVE my NA build

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture050.jpg
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i can haz?

Saw your thread on NoRotors. Has this become a for sale thread?

No

-Brian

awwww.....poop

:9898: bahahah

Not yet.....very soon though.

Alright guys......My part out thread will be posted up by Monday afternoon.

i wanted to give this forum and you comrades a quick heads up and first dibs before the evil forum.I will have pics and FAIR prices with shipping on most items.

REMEMBER: I am only selling rotary related parts and electronics. No suspension, wheels or body. The engine, engine accessories, cooling, Ignition, EMS, harnesses, datalogit, turbo boost control...I mean EVERYTHING rotary related is for sale

**If anyone has an idea of what they want, send me a quick PM of what it is and your price.
Let me know


I will post a link to the FS thread when the time comes.

-Sean

There's some stuff in there I want, but have to pass at the moment :( GL with the sale.

+1 and +1.

its all good guys. let me know when you have the $ and we will do business.

Ahem -

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1276789887

:rofl:

I'll give a call tomorrow buddy

So I know my opinion will mean a tiny bit less then a blind/deaf person... But the car looks spectacular.... Running or not I just want to stare at it....


I found a qoute from earlier in this thread, I think it sums up pretty much what I think you should do....



It's a pain in the ass to own these cars... They are like aircraft engines... 3 hours of work for 1/2hour of operation... But as stated before, when they are running, it makes it all worth it...

For some reason it is so much better then any piston car... Might be the fact there is no pistons... But either way...

I think it's worth the effort.... That is my opinion though....



Either way... The build so far looks so awesome... One of the cleanest S4's I've seen, in and out, and the engine bay too... Props for all the work you have put in....


J.

i think his LS is already on the way to his house......... lol

BTW sean let me know when you want me to paint that front bumper!! im down and it will look spectacular

unfortunately I dont think he is staying 13b as I bought a few parts of him and should be delivered today according to usps.

That's what I get for posting on my phone, and not reading every page :P


Either way, car still looks great...

And as long as he gets to enjoy it a bit more :P


J.

Thanks guys for the kind words BUT yes I already have an LS1 on the way. Almost all my rotary shit is sold...it wet quick BUT itwill cover most of the basic hardware for this swap.



Brian......That is a funny post you S.O.B lol...I still had patience then :)


Kyle- I will let you know when I want you to paint, thanks buddy!!

Prodigy- Thank you for the compliments...it is pretty..that is why I couldn't bring my self to sell it.

That sounds super. Im buying my compressor next time i get paid and then the gun will be the next order of business... SATAjet 3000 here i come!!!:icon_tup:

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...cture018-3.jpg

muhahahahahahahahaha;)

A lot of aluminum there, I bet you could get 150 or more for scrap! So what are the plans for the new engine?