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vex 03-26-2010 09:39 AM

B,

You know Foot control is the only TC you need. :p

Oh yeah, I got my radiator, steel line, and tools in a few days ago. I may be doing some welding this weekend if the weather's right. A much better mounting scheme in the works, plus ducting, and some bulk head fittings still need to be done. But I think my plan will actually make you slightly jealous.

Force13b 03-26-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 113747)
Foot control is fine if you're driving a 176rwhp FC or a 105 fwGp honduh.... not so effective when boost builds as quick and torque is as low as is with my car. Tires are also a big factor, I need better ones. The new RT615k's are out and they ain't cheap..... I dunno what I'm going to do about tires.... I don't even know what rims to put them on. I think I may rock the Works for street duty... dunno... prob make a poll to see which the majority likes more.

fwGp :lol: GO gerbil power GO!

TitaniumTT 03-26-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vex (Post 113752)
B,

You know Foot control is the only TC you need. :p

Oh yeah, I got my radiator, steel line, and tools in a few days ago. I may be doing some welding this weekend if the weather's right. A much better mounting scheme in the works, plus ducting, and some bulk head fittings still need to be done. But I think my plan will actually make you slightly jealous.

I demand sketchs and details...... NOAW

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Originally Posted by Force13b (Post 113756)
fwGp :lol: GO gerbil power GO!

:smilielol5: Exactely..... insights don't make hp, they make me cry with laughter.... silly little cars.

UPDATE:

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! PARTS CAME IN!!!!!!!!!!!! My sensors showed today, I got 2/3's of the quotes back for the waterjetted trigger wheels, delivery time I was told is not going to be an issue, Firzen is the man and overnighted the new ABS knuckles to me so tomorrow the plan is to template the triggers up so I can give the go ahead on the wheels first thing Monday and have a TC system squared away by the end of the week.

Should be picking up the trans/rear early next week, injectors/coils should be here Monday, now all I need is time :rofl:

Sensors and a MoTeC engineers personal rotary ignition system..... mmmmmmm :drool: Can't wait to see how CDI matchs up with inductive on the dyno. SOOOOO looking forward to this test.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1269632560

helghast7 03-26-2010 03:44 PM

hmmm interesting, we still need to talk figures though i dont even know if i can afford everything yet, i might be forced to pass on the powdercoating till after deals

but like i said, for the actual work im not so worried about it, i know things will come together just like they always do

im more worried about prices, its the thing that sucks and forces me to budget..... :( i hate budgeting

proz07 03-26-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 113779)
Sensors and a MoTeC engineers personal rotary ignition system..... mmmmmmm :drool: Can't wait to see how CDI matchs up with inductive on the dyno. SOOOOO looking forward to this test.


im looking forward to the results on this as word on the street the inductive gives better low rpm drivability from the 'long burn' but the CDI is better up top under pressure and fluids. specifically igniting high amounts of meth/water :icon_tup:

z

helghast7 03-26-2010 04:14 PM

oh almost forgot, seats are amazing, like im getting a great big hug from my car, i cant wait for the engine to get tuned so i can really blast around the turns to fully test them out :)

TitaniumTT 03-26-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by helghast7 (Post 113788)
hmmm interesting, we still need to talk figures though i dont even know if i can afford everything yet, i might be forced to pass on the powdercoating till after deals

but like i said, for the actual work im not so worried about it, i know things will come together just like they always do

im more worried about prices, its the thing that sucks and forces me to budget..... :( i hate budgeting

I wouldn't worry about the powdercoating prices. Alex and I talked it over. Since everything is in house, the price will probably surprise you.

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Originally Posted by helghast7 (Post 113793)
oh almost forgot, seats are amazing, like im getting a great big hug from my car, i cant wait for the engine to get tuned so i can really blast around the turns to fully test them out :)

Awesome, glad to hear it. Be careful. The first thing that I noticed about those seats over my Corbeaus was you cannot feel speed nearly as well. I got on the highway, popped 5th and just started cruising one night, very few cars on the rd, thought to myself, "Why is everyone driving like a blind old lady?" Looked down and I was going 115mph :rofl:

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Originally Posted by proz07 (Post 113789)
im looking forward to the results on this as word on the street the inductive gives better low rpm drivability from the 'long burn' but the CDI is better up top under pressure and fluids. specifically igniting high amounts of meth/water :icon_tup:

z

Me too. There's alot of us that feel that the inductive nature of the spark will lead to a better burn, more torque etc etc over a CDI on a properly tuned engine. The rotor speed is just so much slower than that of a piston it just seems logical. Like you said though, when you get to much higher chamber pressures, the inductive may not me able to light it off. This is where CDI comes into play. I don't think my engine is at that line where I'll see a benefit, but this is what the testing is all about.

Unfortuneately, there is no water/meth on the FC. It's in the plan for the FD, but setup in a way that I haven't seen a rotary done before. I'm sure I'll be back on the dyno testing a CDI setup vs the winning inductive coil on that engine as well. Looking for 500wheel on that bad ride.....

Time will tell..... assuming I keep getting parts in when they're supposed to be here.

-Brian

vex 03-26-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 113779)
I demand sketchs and details...... NOAW


I could give you a simple (hand drawn) sketch of my plan and some details, but it might be a little much for me to make a 3D engineering sketch for it. I've just done a simple test design in Inventor--But what I really have planned will make you think it's pure genius!

proz07 03-26-2010 11:31 PM

interested on the meth setup for the FD. assuming some type of high speed valve controlled by the motec?

z

TitaniumTT 03-27-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by proz07 (Post 113831)
interested on the meth setup for the FD. assuming some type of high speed valve controlled by the motec?

z

Yup, two ways I'm thinking about doing it. Either real injectors, or a pump controlled by a PWM output to vary the pressure and the flow.

There's going to be a few other failsafes in there as well all monitored and controlled by the MoTeC. Pressure comp maps, low level warnings, etc etc etc

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Originally Posted by vex (Post 113802)
I could give you a simple (hand drawn) sketch of my plan and some details, but it might be a little much for me to make a 3D engineering sketch for it. I've just done a simple test design in Inventor--But what I really have planned will make you think it's pure genius!

Whatever you got, send it over or post it up.... I wanna see :D

vex 03-27-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 113835)

Whatever you got, send it over or post it up.... I wanna see :D

Posted. Sorry about the quality of the pics. It's the best I could do.

http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...837#post113837

eppo37 03-27-2010 04:48 AM

:bowdown: I think if I ever have a third as much knowledge about these engines as TTT I can die a happy man.

TitaniumTT 03-27-2010 07:48 AM

Thanks Tyler. looks great... I posted a ? in the thread.

eppo37 - Thanks man.

classicauto 03-27-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 113801)
IMe too. There's alot of us that feel that the inductive nature of the spark will lead to a better burn, more torque etc etc over a CDI on a properly tuned engine. The rotor speed is just so much slower than that of a piston it just seems logical. Like you said though, when you get to much higher chamber pressures, the inductive may not me able to light it off. This is where CDI comes into play. I don't think my engine is at that line where I'll see a benefit, but this is what the testing is all about.

I would tend to believe the iunductives will do better in this case also. Although a different coil, my inductive setup on the TECgt is monstrously powerful. I can't quantify it due to the lack of back to back's, but in comparison to other systems I've ran including two jacobs leading coils and seperate jacob's amps on each (can you say welding arc?) this system stacks up well. I am inclined to think the level that inductive's would run out of steam on is probably quite high. Super anxious to see the results of this setup though.

I heart M&W btw :)

Oh, and who did the plug wires??

project86 03-27-2010 11:43 AM

lol... i try and try to follow this thread but if i miss even ONE day of check up on it there are already like 7 more pages added... and then i have to read alot.....hahaha


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