+ 1 for leaving crap behind.

Remember there are always 2 sides to a story! no matter who's side you are on or otherwise. Pretty rank I'd suggest for trolls to come over and put forth their arguments regardless of which pointless forum they are a groupie or admin of :banghead:

Point is there has and always will be problems with ego or profit driven power hungry forums, ultimately the ones who miss out are the people who are looking for real information from people who are proficient in the ability to do the work, not search wiki or the internet for the information. Same for pretend engineers or enthusiastic owners single car efforts thinking they are gods gift based of their credit car expenditure or touch typing skills amassing a mountain of worthless crap on a web forum they have created and then trying to pass it off as an asset :rofl:

There are very few real capable genuine people who contribute to forums, most do not waste their time dealing with bottom feeders of the industry that is modified cars, simple fact of life there.

Some of us move on and find places where we can enjoy talking with normal well adjusted people and share a common interest, which is why we like this forum, some others just cant let go and feel the need to troll for years in spite to make up for something they themselves will never ever have.............................. ability, knowledge, empathy, and respect.

IF you don't want to be part of it go back to your own home and talk to your own kind of people, simple.

Were we just getting trolled by a 7club mod?



Welcome all you new guys though, on the other hand.

No mate just a worthless minion from a massive overrated ego driven self professed rx7 forum based in Australia mostly on shit/wiki/google/ripped info of other sites/and opinion from computer clerks, public servants, and every other occupation that involves sitting in front of a PC 9-5 and typing rubbish while paying others to build/tune your car :rofl: ........... they wish their site was as egocentric as 7club :rofl: maybe it is in their own deluded minds? :rofl:

Any slander you get is totally deserved farm boy. Its not as if you haven't done enough of it yourself ?

It was a chance search that found you paying out your old mates on a random site.


Love Again
Andy

:seeya: troll :seeya:

This hurts Peter.

It really hurts.

Oh lord, we've opened up a shit box hahaha

Lets all get along guys!

We are all around for the same purpose.

I hear you Hassell.. I think you hate Mark as much as I hate few of the select few (about a handful). And I do admire that as I also do that. I know some people think its crazy.. but seriously, we all have this hatred inside for those who just rub us the wrong way. Its human nature... Once someone gets on my bad side like that.. like really bad, I'll make sure they stay away from me and will never let go... I guess maybe until they die or admit their fault and apologize. I am overall pretty understanding person and I also respect those who admit fault... because I believe its hard to do and shows their character. Its those who have such ego and can't admit their fault are the ones I hate and do what I can with my power.. In some ways, thats facts of life :)

Regarding 7Club, some management have changed for the better and because of RCC, their rules have changed also... some of the rules.... I also know they are more business oriented vs. community oriented and I will try to respect what they do. I also hope RCC will stay how it is now and never forget why we started this forum, but this is not my saying as there are very limited select few who have more to say than I and bills need to be paid...

No, please tell me as I don't want to misunderstand you.

Nobody is making me read your posts is correct and I have no problem avoiding people (not that I'll avoid your posts since I have no issue with you in general). However, the person who first joins the forum will read your posts. What disappoints me is that you fail to see that your posts regarding the 7 club are harmful to the community. There is nothing gained from negative posts about another forum. The 7 club has many faults, but it is still an awesome source of knowledge that the vast majority of people have no issues with. When someone new comes over they're likely doing it to join another forum, rather than transfer. As such, they see people bashing on a forum they enjoy going to so which do you think they'll choose? The old one that they enjoy or the new one that has people bashing on something they enjoy? I don't ask those rhetorically.

You're making blanket and incorrect statements about me including my contributions. I make no argument that I have contributed less than many members as I'm not as knowledgable as some (and I reference the 2nd gen section because that's where I frequent... TTT, Kevin, RETed, etc.). However, I have made numerous positive contributions.

I'm not asking you to care about my opinions. I'm asking you to consider your actions and how they affect RCC. What are the advantages to bashing on the 7 club? What are the disadvantages? How does it make RCC look as a forum?

One reason I frequent here is because of the maturity. If that's taken away, that's a huge positive of RCC that's lost.

Are you really trying to imply that someone who has been a member on the 7 club since 2003 doesn't know what's going on? I hope that you reconsider you're erroneous statement. I changed my avatar to this when Mark died and am unable to change it back to my prior one (I'd be more than happy to provide a screenshot showing it's changed in my control panel but not here). However, despite some negative actions to the community towards the end of his tenure, he still had a multitude of positive impacts. He helped me personally numerous times, along with countless other people. Do I agree with how things went down? No. Do I still respect what he did for the community? Yes.

don't be dense, if I have to spell it out then don't worry about it.


so my posts against the 7club harm the community than the 7club itself? :lol: please man, you've been crying about this shit since day one...when will you learn that I don't care if you THINK others will be upset? What makes you think I CARE if others get upset? IF they get upset over the truth then they really have underlying issues they need to take care of before exploring the interwebs.



perhaps, I apologize for that.

You're trying to tell me that my OPINIONS on a site somehow negatively affects the tech on this forum? Or that it affects the friendliness of others who frequent this forum? Or that my PERSONAL OPINIONS are those of ALL OF YOU! that is bullshit and you know it, you've been saying the same thing for a long time and you're wrong...you can say it again in the next "i hate the 7club thread" and you still won't be right. They're MY personal opinions and you don't have to agree with them and you can't censor me, we're not on the 7club anymore buddy.

well be mature and quit crying about my opinions, it's a free country adn as long as we continue to be I'll freely express my opinions.


that's what makes me laugh.

Icemark started using that sig to spite ME after a long, heated, PM exchange we had when Landers and others were first banned.

Then all the groupy assholes decided that they'd honor mark by using the sig he purposely used to spite people rather than the sig he had BEFORE all this bullshit happened. You don't know shit. If people really wanted to honor the man we all (yes, I did look up to him at one point) remembered then the Samurai Jack avatar should have been used. Right now it's a bunch of moronic groupies that don't know shit rollin' around in Mr. Smith avatars honoring the man who single handedly started the rift between RCC and the 7club. It's the truth, whether you like it or not.

If you're done then stop posting....I am down to continue this but I suggest making another thread.

Cliff's notes:

Phoenix - I gotta side with My Baby here.... and here's why, first thing I do after I log in and check PM's is hit the new posts button. All I keep seeing getting bumped is these I hate 7Club threads. RCC isn't the evil forum, we know this, there's no reason to keep rehashing this bullshit. One of the reasons I love RCC so much is becuase there's none of this trolling, I'm better than you, you don't know shit, slidewayz is the only wayz bullshit, I fucking HATE that crap. Enough is enough already, if we want to set ourselves apart with this sense of community and maturity, then lets start projecting that. Threads like this don't project it, Period. We all have our opinions of 7Club, for fucks sake I'm banned again right now but I'm not going to sit behind a keyboard and bitch about deceased members and what they did or did not do.

Regarding Mark - and this is ALL I'm going to say about Mark, do NOT expect a reply because one will not be had. Mark banned me a few times. I knew Mark personally, met him a few times, bullshat with him on the phone quite a bit, hoisted many a beers with him and almost flew across the country to be at his funeral. Did I mention Mark banned me a few times? Mark was a great person who took his responsibility very seriously. He was an enforcer, not a policy maker. Everyone here is attacking him for doing what he was told to do by the people higher up the food chain than him. When DocRX7 perma-banned me for a PM of all things, he talked to Paul, he gave me a few acct's to use and told me if I behaved in 3 months he would go over thier heads to re-open my original acct, merge them all and take the heat for me. I really wish people would stop thinking that Mark was the policy maker because he wasn't. Do I agree with all of his actions? No, but he didn't agree with all of mine either.

Now, can we please get back to some tech bullshit instead?

Welcome Sharingan 19, very nice car, good luck with the repairs! Sucks that you have to start over!

"Some people see what they want to see, but some others see what is. The world of appearance is more appealing than reality to many."

I will not apologize for my opinions but I will apologize for posting my opinions in Sharigan's thread. IF he requests I'll remove the posts.

WOW! Talk about a productive first post.

A few tangents aside, this is exactly the information I was looking for. A lot of things make much more sense now.

After that accident I didn't spend much time on 7club (ironic I know, but what needed to be fixed was rather obvious, no need to consult the omnicient inter webs, lol) and when I came back, I noticed....or rather didn't notice I few members, most notably Kevin Landers....I checked to see that his site was still up, but couldn't figured out where the "missing members" went. Then I found a link to something he was selling on this forum...

Glad to see this is a more mature forum concerned about the community and not just profits, I'll def be spending some time here.

To be honest, I find some of the E-thuggery mildly entertaining, especially threads about "proper stance" and "proper fitment" . But if I were a vendor, or technical expert and I recieved the type of treatment that many on this forum apparently have, I would squander no opportunity to voice my opinion, and hit them where it counts.....their pockets.

That being said, there are still some valuable contributors on the forum and people who are interested in helping the community. Its a shame that a few at the top can spoil the experience for so many.

Nobody on RX7Club says this is the evil club.

God forbid we all forgive and forget, because that doesn't solve anything.