Yes indeed.

Why more people do not invest in racelogic products and do some testing instead of internet guesswork is beyond me.

:auto:

All this talk of racelogic got my attention. Think i might need to get my hand on one of those..

O.K.

I have a bit of a rare thing in the FD RX7 world of real road cars, a potential 4 way battle!!!

Docmar (from Greece) 31psi GT45/47 equipped 13B RX7 (recently dynoed 840?rwhp!) .. contacted him last night and magazine in Greece will be VBOX'ing his car soon! previously on 24psi it did very well indeed with two people in car.

smg944 (USA) already detailed here, looking to go true 93 octane set up, either way sick car! and a real credit to this one man band effort (engine, tune, the whole shit show done himself!)

RICESP (yes cunts that is me!) 33psi T04Z, probably lowest power of the lot, but legitimate pump 93 petrol fueled ;) and RR water injected. 100% stock standard engine, stock standard inter cooler!!!! < a real factory rotary powered exotic supercar beater

Ray Wilson's PFS customer 10,000jazzillion rwhp @ 22000rpm!!! Maybe will run a 93 octane test since he is a broke ass and cant afford to justify spending $500 on a base model VBOX :P

This will be a VBOX ONLY thread, all files *maybe video if you have it to go along* need to be forwarded to me for verification and we will run up the 100kmh to 200kmh times and see how they compare to iconic supercars across the globe!

Showing the world that real rotary street cars do exist and they are not like your local neighborhoods 1200rwhp Toyota Supra that traps 122mph in the 1/4 mile LOL.

if you know of any other fags who can get off their ass and be bothered to test their cars let me know, lets not just be a shit house forum full of dyno queens ...... get out there! test your car in a legitimate way, and prove that it works, and its FAST

Hello guys.
My Name is George i live in Greece and i am relatively new in rotary scene.
I have my fd for 4 years now, perhaps lucky for me or not, with the same motor.
This was my first ever touch with rotary motors.

You have to go easy with me because i never have learn english and i never had anything to do with something american or english or australian (exept one very nice australian-greek woman years ago).

So every thing that comes from me it is only what i'v learned from the tv (movies or music videos) from internet and from english books or magazines or from my effort generaly to learn english NOT with teacher only by my self.

I just LOVE my fd and it is by far the car that i use more and it gives me back so much pleasure so much joy concerning the fact that it isn't my first every day car however i use it allot i make big road trips with my wife and with my daugther.

I take it to cirquits for track days, i participate in rwyb drag races, i tune it by my self (biggest pleasure) in the open road, i tune it in dynos but i use it the most in open road at least once a week.

A car magazine in Greece will be VBOX'ing my car soon again and i will send the files to Peter.
I will use pumpgas because i will NOT use maximum boost for the test.
The car is very difficult to drive it in the road in maximum boost (31psi for me)
It looses traction even in third gear and 180km with very good tires (semis 265/35/18) in very good tarmac quality.
So i will try 24-25psi if i can manage the power and make something good out of it.

My every day boost is 20-21psi about 530-550whp (in different dynos)

I am very happy that i am mentioned honourably, far away from my country.(that happens not so often even in my country Greece)
Thanks to Peter because he is always seeking the better (forgive my english i do not want to sound cockie i do NOT think that i or my car are better) and he loves rx7.

Thats all from me for now,.....some videos with my car and me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDOqSnkZQQ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4wed4zSijc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ3u5...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipK86...ure=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z6i0...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zEp1...JcyjR10BQfA%3D

Keep it up...

I think the reason most people dont go down that route, is because they
1.see the price tag
2. have problems understanding the numbers and corrolations between the numbers, i myself is one of them, but i try to learn something every day. :)

So, lets say i was to put aside some bills one month and want to get a cheap and reliable Vbox-ish thing. Or, i get a few friends and get one we can share.
What do you recommend?

A few of my friends bought one, and they shared it for some street fun and also at use on track days too.

Honestly if you love your car and always are looking for improvements then a basic VBOX like smg944 has is worth more than paying for some other stuff you would on your car ;)

I recommend everyone buy one, if you can do it on your own by not spending so much on going out for a few months or drinking less beer, then its a worthwhile investment. They are such a great thing you very little of them for sale 2nd hand.

Just get one, we all here can teach you how to use it ;)

like this unit?

http://www.vboxaustralia.com.au/vbox%20mini.html

So that is the base model VBOX. Excellent unit which will allow you to do data logging with a mini input module hooked up to it as well (you can see a sample log screen on my web page - go to water injection page) I tuned the Capella listed there with this device! on the road!

Data captured on VBOX MINI + MIM01 Input module
http://www.riceracing.com.au/Photos/WI%20numbers.jpg

A cheaper unit/s is the hobby level PERFORMANCE BOX, see vbox usa web site for links to it, cant hook up extra inputs though, but still excellent for performance testing. site for you > http://www.vboxusa.com/store/index.p...=index&cPath=1

I have a performance box so I can go out and get some data this weekend...

I have only ever used the box for lap timing at the track so im unfamiliar with the 100-200 test. I assume you just record an acceleration run through all the gears then sort through the data and grab the time between 100-200... Not crusing at 100 then punch it until passing 200, correct?

My car is nothing special, just an FD with non-sequential twins running about 12psi.

I also have quite a few friends with single turbo cars locally so I can try and get it in their cars for more data.

Hi!
Excellent! I will have a look at this little thing.
So, if i get it and do some runs with it when im done with engine and tuning, and send the data to you, you can fiddle with numbers and stuff?

Damn you for getting me to look at this stuff, i love gadgets! I was to spend my money getting the 7 done this year...! :biggthumpup:

Test it, lets build up some data base of FAST FD's
 

100% right.

There are two tests that are great to do:

90kmh to 140kmh (3rd gear power band test (Rice Racing standard) you will see the under my VBOX page)
*** This is a VERY POPULAR test as its fast, very quick, easy to do, and lets you test the power band from ~4500rpm to ~8000rpm (depending on level of wheel slip!)*** http://www.riceracing.com.au/vbox-ii...ing-tuning.htm

100kmh to 200kmh (3rd gear to 4th gear to 5th etc, acceleration test)
Note: in the acceleration test, say if you have a poor power band you can start off in 2nd gear, its totally up to you, whatever makes your car faster, you can change up to 5th if your car wont rev out, its up to you! ;)

To do either one you find a flat bit of road, start in gear a fair way under the set speed (say 70kmh), mash the gas, and run it out over the end speed (say 220kmh). The data is extracted post processing using the VBOX Tools software, and a report is generated (just like show in my VBOX testing page on my site.

If you boys go the extra level of getting an accurate weight measure of you cars (with you in it as when you run the car) I will then apply my own developed formula and create another maths channel on your data log you send me, this will be a power channel and it will show you the power at the rear wheels during your runs *simple* It is a great way to see what power you have, and make on the road during the test. I will do this for everyone who sends me a file. The results will be collated in the first page/post of this thread and we can have a resource for people to look over and easily compare & ANYONE can spend a little amount of money and go buy a Performance box and run their own tests and send me the files and get amongst the action and fun that is testing your car and finding out exactly how powerful and FAST it really is :)

This is ONE device that WILL help you quantify the money you spend on your car and will show you how powerful and fast your car really is, be it on circuit track, or air port runway, drag strip or on the street, its a great investment, and separates the FACTS from FICTION :)

Yes for free for ANYONE I will run the extra data channels and reports on their files they send me, it makes me happy that rotary people are out there testing and learning and showing off their cars the way it was intended, to be FAST on the road and track and showing what they can do, and this way there is no excuses, no doubts, just pure simple factual results, the BULLSHIT STOPS WHEN THE VBOX DROPS. :)

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=975948

Someone needs to recruit this man from Finland to sign up here and join us who have fast RX7's :) we can help him much much more than poofters on uselessclub.com ;)

First page updated! with some results & stats

Man, i think i will have to get me one of theese, if a friend of mine doesnt have one allready..! Damn you, Peter!!!! :D
I am dead curious on how fast my car will be when im done. I will be running practically identical setup with the BNRs in seq mode and the awesome 100psi simplified solenoidkit from azeknightz, to Yellow_r1 in this thread, but only water injection for me.

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=966671&page=2