Nice!!

just putting some finishing touches on it before tuning, i still need to construct some sort of crankcase vent system as well as a catch can for the fuel tank vent.

putting plates on it today so i can go get the front end aligned soon.

hard to believe as this may sound...i got hit in the ass today in 7...with 15 miles on it....punk kid not paying attention in traffic slams into it, surprisingly little amount of apparent damage, but a lot of cumulative damage, and i think it hurt the engine as well...its only happened an hour ago so the full spectrum of damage is yet to come...i am...quite unamused with the whole thing.....it was running perfectly....for 15 miles...details to come but looks like DGRR is out for me, i cant afford any more work on the car now at this point and im worried about a sound the engine is making.

WUT?

No, No, No! You wants I should rub'im out for ya? This sucks, I really wanted to see this at DGRR. :(

Justified Homicide is all I can think of right now.

That is really impressive.... nicely done!

Wow.... sorry to hear than man..... that is so very uncool. Insurance should pay for EVERYTHING, even mechanical issues that arise from an accident..... it's not like you don't have the proof of how perfect the thing was running posted on YouTube prior to the accident.

Nah.... no profit in that

KNRR....
Kidnap
aNd
Rape
then
Ransom

trust me..i wanted to pinch his head off...i was furious...still kind of am.....but at least it spared the sheet metal, ill get pics up eventually, got a lot of stuff going on now, ill still try to make dgrr if the engine is ok, but its making a funny noise now that it wasnt making before the impact, so it will either get worse or not i spose, if its a bearing or something it wont take long to find out.

that is the second time i have been hit by a redneck in a pickup truck, the other one backed into my miata with his ford 4x4 and mashed up my front bumper, because all of a sudden while sitting in a line in a parking lot he decides to throw it in reverse and nail it....i think they need to ban pickup trucks from anyone without a CDL...maybe it will weed out some of these morons.

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im floored at how my tail lights and rear sheet metal escaped damage, but it fucked up the paint at the door jams and hood/cowl where panels moved and impacted, kind of dented my exhaust tip and broke one of the hangers for the muffler, the bumper...is under scrutiny...i took it off, its not badly damaged but its not the same shape, i will attempt to straighten it, otherwise i will need to find a straight one...that might take a while...

pisses me off, that road is such a pain in the ass but it is the only road that leads east out of town, so everyone has to go down it, this ass hat was a kid, bout 17, probably on the phone, he had no biz doing what he did, traffic was stopped, been stopped, he was simply not looking forward....i had to tell him to get away from me...i wanted to knock him out..i was furious..as soon as it hit i just envisioned an impossible repair job to my once perfect shell.

now the insurance battle begins, but thankfully..being a car guy i have car guy allies, that have car guy lawyer allies that know people...car guys stick together...

I'm real sorry to hear this man, makes me sick!

Negligence is one of the things that pisses me off most in an accident. Oh, so because you had something more important going on while you're DRIVING, your dumb ass hits me and possibly ruins something that JUST got out of the garage?! JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO PAY ATTENTION?! WTF?!!!!

If you get his address, let us know. I'm not into dudes, but I like Brian's idea. And this dipshit DEFINITELY deserves it.

you see the truck...thats the first thing i saw...i was going to beat his teeth out immediately and then i saw the back of my car and it shocked me just long enough to stop myself...then i told him to stay away from me..and he did

and yes, this was not an accident, this was negligence, there was no reason for this to have happened, i had just moved away from a school crosswalk, maybe 3-4 car length and stopped again because the line from the light ahead is long and slow, and this tard drives straight into me and like 20mph, wtf was he doing 20mph for, no one moved more than 40ft...a fucking accident is a severe blowout, or unexpected hydroplane...or mechanical failure...or even an honest misjudgement of distance/speed/visibility, this dude was on the phone or texting or masturbating or something and just ruined a very beautiful thing

Exactly. I hope you get everything fixed soon, and in enough time to still make it to DGRR.

took it out and had a little fun with it last night, was good for my mood, despite me still being a little sore and frustrated, at least you cant see the wounds very well at night and it makes you smile, its fun as hell to drive

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Sounds awesome!

Sooooo....it isn't broken?

DGRR???

its on probabtion, the noise is still there, neither myself or my friends have been able to pin down the source...so for lack of desire to describe it in text...im going to run it till it pukes or it doesnt and then ill know.

as for DGRR, its still planned if the car behaves, although now i need to touch up paint the damages and find a new bumper which is difficult around here, finding one as perfect as mine...was...is nearly impossible, but considering the circumstances im sure the knowing eyes of the DGRR folks will know why my car isnt as clean and perfect as it should have been upon arrival to the show...

i have a BAD vibration in the driveline, im almost positive something is amiss with the driveshaft the was altered to fit the new configuration, so i have to take that back to the driveshaft shop and see whats what. anything above 60mph tried to shake the car apart, while we were out playing with the car in "mexico" i had the car up to some northern speeds and the vibration is terrible and unsafe so im taking it back apart and fixing some of the damages from the impact while im at it.

i have my 3.08 gears for it...they came in the day of the wreck...dammit...it needs those bad...as you can see...it spins a bit :lol:

well i have another issue not related to the impact or engine noise..

along the way in this build i overlooked something very important...and when i say overlooked, i was aware of it, i just kept it on the back burner....well it bit me...

i have a bad trans/driveshaft/pinion alignment problem...and there isnt much i can do about it easily.

the transmission ended up a little lower in the car than it was, and possibly at a different angle(i dont have another 7 around to measure), also...im not sure my grannies 8.8 is at the right pinion angle to start with...ill verify that when i can pin down the info i need to do so....

this results in the pinion being about 4 deg north of the trans angle, and almost directly in line with it......it caused an immediate failure of the yoke Ujoint within the 140miles i put on it so i put it on stands to investigate the vibration and discovered my oversight....but an oversight i couldnt really avoid...due to space constraints

SO i needed to change the rear end gears anyway, so it needs to come out now to investigate further my problem....and time is running out for DGRR...and money ran out a long time ago...:18:

im probably going to have to build a 2 piece driveshaft or something...i cant really move anything around in any direction...

I had some similiar problems with both my FC and my Jeep.... I found that the gents @ Carolina Driveshaft really, I mean REALLY know thier shit when it comes to troubleshooting and solving oddball problems like that.... personally I would suggest calling them and they can help solve it either through a new driveshaft or axle shims or something... I had a bad vibe in my 7 when I swapped the engine and 6spd trans in, same sort of thing, because of the tailshaft housing and not wanting to massage the tunnel or cut 1/2 of it out, I ended up with the driveshaft pointed basically directly @ the diff and I had a pretty bad vibe as well.... we got it worked out though.

Also with my lifted Cherokee... $188 for a brandy new double cardon driveshaft and damn is that thing silky smooth now...

Harry or Tom is who I've been dealing with over there, Harry mostly as of late..

Good luck man, I would LOVE to see this beast @ DGRR... I'll bring a nickle ;)

trust me dude..i want to go..but it seems there are powerful forces at work trying to stop me...
first i get hit, then i get an odd and as of yet unidentified noise from the engine following being hit, and now i have a major driveline geometry problem that i didnt catch.

however it seems to me that the brunt of the issue lies in my grannies 8.8, the problem was probably there before when i put about 600 or so miles on it with the rotary shortly after DGRR2011 when i installed it, but was probably so borderline that it went largely unnoticed, it did have a previous high speed vibration, but not till around 130+, so i could have blamed it on many things never figuring the driveline would have a problem, since i ordered the rear to fit my application and parts, but NOW that i have changed things a little with this engine the problem has surfaced big time. the transmission is approximately 4 inches further back, and somewhere around 1.5in lower down. not a huge difference, but its non negotiable.

annoyingly i dont have a stock FB to measure on, BUT my trans is essentially pretty level in the car, and really it cannot move in any direction for any amount of worth while distance, but with that, the pinion gear is less then 1 inch below the tailshaft, BUT the issue is...the pinion points approx 3-4deg NORTH of parrallel, which is exactly opposite of where it needs to point...so its somewhere around 6-8deg off.
now i have but a few weeks and zero dollars to basically refabricate the rear end geometry and hope it solves it enough for my driveshaft to work, otherwise i will have to engineer and build a subframe in the middle of the car to house a carrier bearing for a 2 piece driveshaft assembly...not cheap, and not fun....

so with the damage from the impact along with it..im bout to call it a day and lick my wounds for a while

Believe me man, I totally get the whole tuck the car away and lick some wounds and focus on shit that can get done in a timely fashion to actually enjoy the event.... hence the 8 going and not the FC....

As to geometry problems that have arisen, I don't know anything about the grannies 8.8 swap, is it a live axle or is it some type of IRS? If it's a live axle, what the Jeep guys have been doing for years is getting shims, basically little wedges that mount between the perce and the leaf springs to angle the pinion either up or down to get the proper angle for the pinion.... I'm wondering if that can be accomplished with the your setup.... although, now that I'm picturing the underside of an FB, which happens to be in the air behind me, that wouldn't be a very feasible option... one would need to cut off every single mounting tab and spring perch, rotate around the tube to where it needs to be and reweld everything.... that just sounds alot of fun.... in a sadistic kind of way.

I don't know if a carrier bearing and a 2-piece driveshaft would be the cheapest option either, the most fun for sure..., I'm thinking a double cardon driveshaft might solve the problem... and I can tell you I just paid $188 for mine for my Jeep.... and yeah.... 6-8* is way too much, they usually want to see 2-4*

I dunno.... any good pics of the grannies 8.8 you could point me too?

well the coil spring and 4link set up in the FB will require me to cut and reweld the bracketry and spring buckets to solve the problem, i have a local driveline guru coming to the house this weekend to put a second set of eyes on it, no matter how much i know and do i always respect an experienced opinion as im no expert, i learn by trial and error like everyone else :D

but i will still try for DGRR, though im not going to reserve my room if you know what i mean, hopefully they will send me my shirts in the mail if i dont make it hehehe

not sure i will have the paint fixed either...we shall see....

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a carefull look that i obviously failed to give it when i installed it will reveal the problem as i am seeing it, the car/trans are near as makes no difference level, and the rear is jacked up to all but ride height minus maybe 3/4" that the springs would let me get without lifting the car, this is an unaltered as ordered, bolt in grannies 8.8 rear end, and as i am seeing it, and the digi protractor i borrowed yesterday told me, the pinion is like 4 degrees UP instead of 1-3 degrees DOWN, it is as far as i can tell, totally wrong. and lowering the transmission for the 1uz install exacerbated the problem to the point it was noticed immediately

Their rear ends are probably setup to be used with their mounts. Which does you no good since you're a nonconformist. :)

Used to run into this a lot with lifted 4WD trucks when the u-joint angles got too severe the engine/trans mounts and pinion angles had to be changed. Your u-joint angles can't possibly fall into this category though. :lol: The centerline from the eshaft to the back of the transmission output shaft has to be in the same plane as the pinion shaft. Is moving the front of the engine up or the back of the transmission down at all feasible?

A good guideline http://www.iedls.com/asp/admin/getFi...&TID=28&FN=PDF

Hope this helps, I really need to see this at Deals Gap.

I'm sure its fixable in the long run but would it help any if you either extended the lower links a little or shortened the upper links to rotate the axle? I know you cant go far without modifying the spring perch,sway bar mounts, body/wheel contact but it may be an option.

is your trans and rear parallel to each other left to right? or a slight offset to allow the u-joints to rotate? I asked about my car since the drivetrain is slightly offset left to right and was told about vibrations from u-joints if I remember correctly( go look at it Brian. look at the motor mount to x-member)

[QUOTE=GySgtFrank;232964]Their rear ends are probably setup to be used with their mounts. Which does you no good since you're a nonconformist. :)

im pretty sure that the pinion angle is just outright wrong, sotck driveline or not, there is no way it needs to point 4 degrees north in this chassis for any reason, conformist or not :D i think it was borderline functional before and now it is intolerant

im working on that plan tonight once my help arrives to wrestle everything around, and yes, the control arms are an option, although the uppers are quite difficult to shorten, since that will also change location centers on them due to being angled, i can fudge a small amount and let the bushing take the flex, but not a lot, and the lowers can only rotate so far for stated reasons, but i can cut stuff off and move it just as easy, its just aggravating to have to do so. i will be obtaining the hard data on what is there and what needs to be there tonight, but if anyone has the STOCK information and reference points to determine factor pinion angle i would be more appreciative, i might be able to find it via google but i dont have to time to spend hours forum fishing

stay tuned for the next adventure of frankenseven the unlucky...

I would give you some measurements but my car is currently still in Pa. but it has its stock axle and newish bushings and the TII trans in stock location.

Looking at that and one of the FB's we haev on the lift, it looks like it's pointing in the right direction, just too much in that direction. I know on the FC it was pointing up slightly to be almost in line with the angle of the transmission, both of which were offset to get the needed rotation on the u-joints. It was a royal PITA for me, and what I ended up doing was putting the stock TII trans in there minus the tailshaft housing and putting a digital leve on the output shaft and then getting a measurement on the flange of the diff, IIRC they were withen 1* of each other, the offset came with the engine/trans and the diff itself not being in line....

My problem was made MUCH worse by the Banzai engine mounts to get the 13B-RE Cosmo block in there..... my thought at the time was, well, Chris I'm sure did all the math and made sure everything was proper to get the proper angles.... how wrong I was.... I know this for FACT because I built a steel "pallet" that I could bolt the Cosmo to with his mounts, sans the rubber engine mounts.... Then I needed to transport a stock S4 with stock mounts on it.... they weren't even close to lining up. Built my own pass side mount to rememdy the problem, then the drivers side mount broke :icon_no2:

All rotaries are offset, except the renni, that bitch is in there pretty damn straight.

[QUOTE=85turbo12a;233042]As I said before.... we've got a stock FB on the lift now without a driveshaft on it, what measurements do you need?

Another quote failure. I keep getting blamed for stuff I didn't even say! :squint:

could be worse...at least you dont have driveline misalignment :D

as for offset, i dont have much if any, the big arse engine kinda dictated where things went so im having to adjust around it, i think i have a plan....if goes to plan i should have car back on the ground by next weekend

the data collected tonight revealed a 5deg positive pinion angle to trans, luckily it looks like all i have to modify will in fact be the lower arms, need to extend them about .400in, im still very close in line with the trans, but it is angled, in the worst case position, near bump stop to simulate total full fuel tank, 2 people and a good dip in the road at speed, i have almost an inch drop with 1deg neg pinion angle, so it will be perhaps almost 2 inches with normal load so it just might be ok, i have my driveline guru making a special trip out tomorrow to verify my thinking and add his opinion...now if i can win the lotto it looks like i just might make DGRR!!

and TitaniumTT...you gonna have to bring the nickle...im probably going to use all mine up for fuel....

ok, got the measurements needed, ended up having to shim the trans 3/8 up at the tailshaft, that is all the body and engine configuration will allow, but its better than nothing, going to make new lower control arms tomorrow, and stick it back together and let it eat and see what shakes loose.

also have to deal with the gearing..1 thing at a time...

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new lower arms, now with 1.25x.125 tubes, hope it puts things where they need to be, wont know for certain till its all back together

I see you have a tire plug kit.... anticipating problems?

funny you should mention that...i have no spare in the car since the battery and other hidden items consumed by spare tire well....so its plug kit and air pump for me, and hope for nothing catastrophic since i have a hard time finding my rear tires

Its funny how now that Im working at a tire shop, how many people just carry a can of fix-a-flat. Its not a bad idea keeping a plug kit in the car though, ever since I spotted a screw in one of my GF's tires Ive had one at hand in her glove box ever since.

right test drive revealed i still have a vibration at 70ish, though its different this time and i blame the shaft itself, its about 1/2" too short now as well as when i had the Ujoint replaced the guy at the shop said the tube is slightly egged, so tomorrow i get a new shaft made and go from there....it has approx 2 degrees of drop from trans to rear and about 2 degree down pinion, that is the best i can do.

in other news....it will spin the tires about anytime you want...passing people at 70mph on the interstate whilst crabbing sideways has got to rustle a few jimmies.
when its finally tuned it will be undriveable...methinks...

You are a sick, sick man. :lol:

been called worse :iagree:

i just hope i can cure the vibe...it used to be so smooth at high speed...and as for the gap...i spose the engine is as good as it can be, i have beat the piss out of it trying to make that noise worse and it hasnt tossed its cookies so, now i just need to get the AFRs tuned in, front end aligned and hopefully cure the vibe and make my vent canister fit, and then...win the lottery so i can afford the fuel and motel....:D

so far as i can tell the vibe is cured, put about 40 miles on it, including some northern speeds, and it seems ok now, with the help of my friend riding shotgun for some street tuning we got the interstate and mid range driving AFR's tuned in pretty good for a short session, its not perfect but its pretty good.

car is making great power and drives real nice, the combo such as it is, is a great one, now time will tell if the T2 trans will live, but ill just be nice to it now, got the gears changed out and put the swaybar and tailpipe back on it, and get it ready for DGRR!!

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