NEW DESIGNS and model numbers on Monday :) ALL READY
3 versions
Horizontal coil orientation x 1
Vertical coil orientation x 2

Resolve issue of physical interference on one coil in location, only seen after many hours analysis and viewing various iterations.
Done major detail redesign of COP Adaptors (internals, spring system, fixing etc, and external) and associated items (mounts etc)....... all good :) now this is 100%. Thank god for CAD model no way you could do this without it !
Will include dimension critical items along with the three pics of the 'options' well only Horizontal and Vertical will have different dimensions.

Some of the internal detail is different in the COP, I wont be sharing this for public consumption here ;) but I guess eventually customers will post it ???? Either way not easy to make regardless let alone check so good luck to copy cats :)

I'll most likely be down for at least one set.

I'm down for a vertical ghetto set :)

I'm down for a set as long as it fits. Still waiting to hear back from my buddy on that.

No problem, will get around to putting up the detail late today or early tomorrow.
Wanted to stab myself with my verniers yesterday when I saw the fitment problem! however out of it came the opportunity to re-think some design elements of the COP adaptors, and it was worth it.......... better than previous version and I can say that it is more optimized than before.

Saying is true 5% inspiration 95% perspiration, yesterday I felt 99% molestation when I had to go a redesign so many components LOL! :)

All good.

Im ready for the adaptors asap. I will be running them on the 20b

I have a bit of time this afternoon, will smash up the pictures and some dimensions.
Main page and here as well.

You had to redesign them again? Or are you talking about doing V3? What fitment problem are you talking about?

:smash: One COP adaptor interfered with the IGN-1A coil when in vertical orientation :smash: so this meant a full redesign of the COP adaptror!!! :smash: I took the opportunity to refine some internal specifications (much better) only took 6 hours work LOL. Then as a result of that I have had to alter the 3 x engine brackets (ghetto Vertical, CNC Vertical, CNC Horizontal) Coil spacers did not need changing! .............. but I had to do allot of work :squint:

Here is all the FINALIZED (please mother go god!) options.
Dimensions are from Trailing plug tip (R7420) to the back edge of the IGN-1A case molding (add plug male and female connections to that), and from the front rotor housing edge to the (next the the end plate) to the furthest protrusion on the COP set up, for the horizontal it sits forward of this edge and the Vertical it sits behind this edge

RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-HM Horizontal mounting :o15:
http://i.imgur.com/zFSYs7V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dFiPezL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M6JX3Av.jpg

RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-VM Vertical mounting ;)
http://i.imgur.com/OeEemNH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hKsST8C.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gUKv40B.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4amkVA4.jpg

RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-VF Vertical 'ghetto' fabricated mounting :D
http://i.imgur.com/jpYIuVn.jpg

RRCOP-IGN1A-A COP adaptors for separate supply for DIY'ers :smash:
http://i.imgur.com/p739Gau.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xTnGR9k.jpg

You can count me in for a setup. Since I'm still running PS i figure I'll go with the vertical one, as it'll afford the most possible clearance :)

I think I may have a few other people that are interested as well :)

Vertical

mainly a lurker on this forum, but I offered up some aem coils vertically to my engine (has side mount alternator) and there looks to be plenty of space. please put me down for a set when they go into production.

*Updated front page of this thread for people who may not know much about how I have been running COP's for a looooooong time, all proven :)*

Some stress analysis

Designed to take over 50kg of load, with less than 0.5mm deflection at its furthest point :)
In actual operation in the engine bay, pretended it was an off road stadium truck jumping lol!!!
The engine bracket will deflect 0.02mm and has a safety factor of around 50! so its plenty strong :)

http://i.imgur.com/4DUU6x0.jpg

Stress and deflection analysis done, see first page :smash:
as said its tough as f*ck :smash:

New M&W CDI coil (COI-006) arrived today.

Will design a 13BREW system around these in vertical fitment, these will not need a COP adaptor :18: since its female on the coil end so will design a bespoke spring arrangement with rubber boot, similar to what I did with the Dynatek CDI coils (only similar that its a linear end on end fitment.

IF no COP adaptor will need new coil bracket spacers.
This is a preferred option.
Will NOT be able to 'interchange' these easily.

Count me in for one of these! RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-VM

O.K.

What I will do is when I officially have the PP version in my hand will come back here and 'ACTIVATE' the purchase request, at the moment I am starting the production process of the *-VM version and the COP adaptors as #1 priority.
Some components getting made as this goes up here :302:

Touch wood will have pricing to follow.

Peter

A different view...............

http://i.imgur.com/5Zn8hpz.jpg

At the very least, I'm in for a set of the COP adapters, RRCOP-IGN1A-A. Still debating if I can use the full ghetto vertical mount setup, RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-VF, to my advantage.

In for epic Ignition system...
If you don't mind me asking Peter, how much retail do these guys go for?

Also, do you have any pictures of them?


J.

Around $100 a coil from memory

Physically connector is on front (pictured attached)
Not 'much' different to IGN-1A
Work has started on that, though wont be as fast as last system development as I have 1 million things on the go at once! :o15: :D

http://i.imgur.com/hwicXiH.jpg

+1

It's not THAT much more expensive. I was thinking like $200 per coil or something.

How much is one of these setups gonna cost me rice? I haven't posted in a while but I have a GTX4202r sitting in the shed now. Waiting to get some work before I blow to much more money working on the car lol

I should have a 'cost' soon, but I need to validate the PP versions physically FIRST prior to going off half cocked Howard Coleman style and taking years to separate fact from fiction LOL......

As I type this I have the last elements being sorted, so I think I can get back to the detail in a fair time frame.

Should have it modeled today :smash:

M&W (COI-006) drawn up, looks like will not go vertical without some thought (gotta flip shit around) will :smash: it in there :)

New headaches start!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/AgJFFxk.jpg

4.46mm back from the front rotor housing edge (not as good as the IGN-1A
can use 4 holes to bolt down.
Still needs odd mounts due to offset on flanges, cant have coils lined up as wiring harness plugs smash into spark plugs sadly.
This is only way to fit it vertical, otherwise will work on horizontal version

http://i.imgur.com/bwN7nEz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dcixZSA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/boKsUe3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LOrmGfS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/36ci54H.jpg

Coil needs to be spaced out to achieve a horizontal fit, kinda defeating the benefits of the female coil end......
http://i.imgur.com/nQKgKOn.jpg

Only way I know how to fix this is to trim back the connector interface on the coil, potting it and fitting an autosport connector or DT series (similar to my original COP on first page) more remote style quick disconnecting position. This would free up some room, but not make it true 'plug n play'.

Leave it with you all to mull over, if it was my own set up, then I would molest the coils fuck off the connector and trim it right back and gain 15mm space, and run the remote connector interface
horizontal will need lots of mods to make it work/fit.

molested coil below, needs connector trimmed, holes drilled in it, 3 wires inserted and fixed, pot the other side of the connector end, heat shrink and another connector, up in the bay where you can get to it, as on the front is a c-u-n-t.
http://i.imgur.com/zkagsM1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4ZpIPEH.jpg

The M&W coil ideally is a Vertical Mount only as is, and no need to modify the coil, depending on 'demand' for this I will put this project on a lower priority :dunno: and fit it in when I have time to develop new coil spacers, engine bracket mount will be the same as in the IGN-1A 'VM', and will have new boot and spring coupling or adaption.

Simple, now just to do it!

p.s. the coils will only use a single bolt (lower tab on trailing and upper tab on leading coil) and body of casing for location as it is more than ample fixing method.

M&W coil bracket F (front)
Using same engine bracket as in IGN-1A system !

http://i.imgur.com/ZyTUnx1.jpg

p.s. checked this physically on engine and coil mating plug clears the knock sensor *just* so all looks good, this system will interchange with the IGN-1A coil set up :biggthumpup:

This is the completed M&W CDI coil bracket system.
Will still need to work on COP interface *easy* compared to this stuff, will just do a rubber spark plug boot with internal coil spring, as its so short and fully encased by the coil tower will need no noise attenuation either...

http://i.imgur.com/FXqWu6S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rUrbzXn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PF0O0DT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xKvJxYd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZisGXVO.jpg

mung it

Could you explain what comes in your kit? Bracket, hardware, etc. etc.

4 x COP adaptors
(each one of these has a cover plate, internal contact buttons, and a spring, O-ring seals)
2 x Coil spacer/mounts
(FRONT and a REAR mount)
1 x Engine bracket/mount
(mounts off center plate)
Fasteners for the mounts x 3 and for the COP cover plates x 16
(all fasteners required to complete assembly)
Instruction sheet, with CAD pictures of fitment, and instructions
(Detail on assembly and trim needed to trailing coil tab and how to do that with step by step pictorial illustrations.)

Email sent. I'm in for a set of just the COP adapters.

Peter,

Are those prices including shipping?

For those who are having difficulty navigating Peters site, his email is: peter@riceracing.com.au

out of the goodness of my heart :18: yes shipped, to sweeten deal :tongue1:

:kiss:

I'm assuming the prices for the other versions will be around $995 also, is that correct? I'm still waiting to hear back from my buddy. He did the measurements but lost the paper he wrote them on lol.

The M&W version should be a little less as there will be no complex COP Adaptor innvolved (but this will be offset buy expense of buying CDI boxes obviously.

The 'ghetto' version I will not make since price of the CNC machined one is pretty good. Horizontal will not have enough demand so its on the back burner as well, as its a small market, that the vertical will cover anyway.

Showing stress/deflection analysis which helped me determine design of last lot of parts (M&W version) this load is 'like' hanging an engine rotor off this part! :lol: (5 times more load than it will see in reality)

http://i.imgur.com/VKNwmiT.jpg