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RICE RACING 05-11-2013 07:19 PM

This is an example of how to do it on a ghetto ECU from my mate Frank Profera > http://www.lotussport.org/viewtopic....4508&start=240

I prefer WM50 fluid, but the idea and concept and reality is the same so far as consumption, integration, engine performance.

Brad 05-29-2013 09:47 AM

this car needs to enter WTAC!!!!! would definitely clean up in the street class!

JhnRX7 05-29-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 243511)
This is an example of how to do it on a ghetto ECU from my mate Frank Profera > http://www.lotussport.org/viewtopic....4508&start=240

I prefer WM50 fluid, but the idea and concept and reality is the same so far as consumption, integration, engine performance.

I am using the exact same ghetto spec ECU in my FD... They may have had their issues in the past, but they have learned from it and created a very good product this time around (for what it is, its not trying to be a LR unit).

RICE RACING 05-29-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JhnRX7 (Post 245503)
I am using the exact same ghetto spec ECU in my FD... They may have had their issues in the past, but they have learned from it and created a very good product this time around (for what it is, its not trying to be a LR unit).

Yeah that is good to hear that they are better now, everything has its place for sure.

I have been testing many ECU's lately, the current one I have surplus for sale in the FD section, its a PECTEL MQ-12, in custom control ways this is better than the Life Racing F90.

RICE RACING 10-09-2013 06:50 AM

Some better screen set ups and comparisons to multiple laps & different drivers.
Nice to have good electronics package :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/4342/f1tw.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/3694/zton.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img31/5420/85n.JPEG

My set up :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img593/5512/up39.jpg

Random old school :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/8839/bhwr.jpg

silverfdturbo6port 10-09-2013 07:50 PM

Nice! Where do you get all the cool gadgets? They cost a arm and a leg

RICE RACING 10-09-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port (Post 261890)
Nice! Where do you get all the cool gadgets? They cost a arm and a leg

^All over the place^, lots of contacts across the globe so I get allot of stuff, mostly for testing and the persuit of knowledge so then I can talk about it from personal experience perspective........... its my job, so I am always testing out new items, lots of them 'top shelf' :smash:

Cost is relative :suspect:
I learned long ago: A cheap item is a total loss, providing life long frustration + pain V's the temporary initial shock of the costs associated with the highest quality items.

I've never ever regretted buying a top spec item, always been able to use it, enjoy it, then after its served its time, sold it off to others who wanted it, if you look at the whole life cycle of the purchse, the high expense items deserve the consideration as they are a WIN/WIN proposition, v's the low spec shit (plethora of shit!) that are worthless as soon as you take delivery :001_302:

Quality costs! and its cheaper long term + much MUCH more enjoyable and worth while ;)

silverfdturbo6port 10-09-2013 08:45 PM

Makes sense. So its safe to say you probably never been to harbor freight :)

RICE RACING 10-14-2013 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port (Post 261908)
Makes sense. So its safe to say you probably never been to harbor freight :)

Have no idea who they are but am guessing dodgy brothers?

Bought a new (for me) s/h laptop dancer today Dell e6430 i5 2.8jizzahurts 16gb mamory glans and 250gb solid turd disk? ............ fucked if I know the specs etc, but need it to run all of this shit !

Fucken Autosport connectrs hanging out my arse! needed 3 for the dash and car logger ........ expensive cuuuuunts! should have stuck with a microtech ECU and their dash LOL :smilielol5:

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/7480/i9eq.jpg

RedR1 10-14-2013 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 261905)
I learned long ago: A cheap item is a total loss, providing life long frustration + pain V's the temporary initial shock of the costs associated with the highest quality items.

SO, SO True!! about 10 years ago i used to be ok with buying off-brand or "good enough" products. Now, after tens of thousands of dollars wasted (i'm a slow learner, lmao) I only buy new or top shelf for my specific application. very rarely do i buy used, if it can be avoided.

RICE RACING 10-14-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RedR1 (Post 262498)
SO, SO True!! about 10 years ago i used to be ok with buying off-brand or "good enough" products. Now, after tens of thousands of dollars wasted (i'm a slow learner, lmao) I only buy new or top shelf for my specific application. very rarely do i buy used, if it can be avoided.

I still have the habit like us all to never pay retail and buy shit on the cheap, but must be high quality item or 'top shelf'.

The car ECU thing is a classic.
People go 'fuck man' you have a mega buck ECU.......... but forget that extreme example for a second, you look in my ECU thread for example of units that only cost ~$4500 Life Racing F88 (for example).

You buy *one* unit and it does everything.
Data Logger
AFR Measure
Boost Control
Engine
Gearbox
Traction Control
Ignition System


You go add up all of that shit + ghetto enable codes LOL (some shit brands) and even wehn buying ghetto, you get to the price of top shelf, only difference is you still have a turd of a system all interconnected with scotch locks and cable ties LOL.

Sometimes (and this comes with age) you just need to take a step back and think, and spend the ca$h once and you do end up with much better solutions and better value long term.

Sure high quality costs initially, but ironically it is cheaper long term, and a fuck load better all the way through :)

grantrx4 11-24-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING;261689

Random old school :)

[IMG
http://imageshack.us/a/img826/8839/bhwr.jpg[/IMG]

That's a good article to read, it's a shame they're limiting the f1 cars next year too 3.5 bar and fuel limits too. Not really going to be developing any new technologies on that front to filter down too the road car market are they.

Any progress with your car Peter?

RICE RACING 11-25-2013 02:31 AM

F1 will learn many things to make things more efficient and that is good either way it means more power.

My car is Don Mega Crazy but not for open sharing here till I progress on to the next developments. Those next levels will commence next year and then I'll post up all this old stuff from this year for people to copy.

Mitchocalypse 11-25-2013 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 268023)
F1 will learn many things to make things more efficient and that is good either way it means more power.

My car is Don Mega Crazy but not for open sharing here till I progress on to the next developments. Those next levels will commence next year and then I'll post up all this old stuff from this year for people to copy.

Hold on.. you wait until you have actual results before you give people advice? That's not how rx7 forums work.

RICE RACING 11-25-2013 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitchocalypse (Post 268024)
Hold on.. you wait until you have actual results before you give people advice? That's not how rx7 forums work.

Almost there, but it's about 2 steps further on before the old redundant advice is shared @ that time I am about 2 levels further advanced, most people are working still with information I openly published about 6 levels ago lol.......


Some as you elude too have no such ability as they have in most times not developed anything at all themselves and only have a few shitty posts full of hype and themselves and live out a public nightmare full of blocked fuel filters and a litany of hockey pucks and broken pardigm shifts LOL.

:lol:

grantrx4 11-25-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 268023)
F1 will learn many things to make things more efficient and that is good either way it means more power.

My car is Don Mega Crazy but not for open sharing here till I progress on to the next developments. Those next levels will commence next year and then I'll post up all this old stuff from this year for people to copy.

Fair play. Are you running the BWs400 on your Don Mega Rice Spec Street port?

RICE RACING 11-26-2013 05:41 AM

I use a custom made and RR specified motorsports turbo, nothing you can commercially buy.

Fendamonky 11-26-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 268154)
I use a custom made and RR specified motorsports turbo, nothing you can commercially buy.

So no more t04z?

kraftjason413 11-26-2013 10:51 AM

wow! I just looked through the first page of photos and I may have jizzed myself. Love the exhaust work. I've not seen that spoiler on an FD before.

RICE RACING 11-26-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kraftjason413 (Post 268177)
wow! I just looked through the first page of photos and I may have jizzed myself. Love the exhaust work. I've not seen that spoiler on an FD before.

Look up Mazda M2 1020 this is a write up I did on it explaining the historical context.

M2 1020
http://asmic.com/collect/pics/co06-01.gif

RX7 SP "localy developed????*
http://asmic.com/collect/pics/co03-02.gif

http://www.riceracing.com.au/RiceSPGallery.htm


In a recent book I aquired it describes a special Mazda RX7 developed totaly by the M2 performance arm in Japan (est 1990 with 4 Mazda factory employees), this special was the M2 1020 (pictured above). You can see it has a striking resemblence to the "localy developed" race version ultimate RX7, the RX7 SP. Minor differences are the extra bracing for the centre wing (which do vibrate easily) and also the centre brace for the front bar (again which crack with extended use). The parts are very similar if not identical to these localy developed versions :idea: :?: :!: Also of note is the "special bonnet" which is not available anymore in original aluminium specification.

Also of note is the derived PFS Supercars RX7 special which funnily enough some of the same "special localy developed Mazda Australia bits" namely the intercooler which is 100% idential to the SP unit.

After looking at all these coincidental parts and the fact that the M2 branch was closed in April of 1995 in Japan and the model was shelved for local production, is it a bit suss that these parts may have been off loaded to Mazda Australia to make a performance model such as the SP? Or were these body parts all developed and designed here and shipped to Japan??? *highly unlikley to me* Some carbon bits such as the intake and fuel tank etc seem not to be on any other variation but I am wondering about the original concept (competition special car) did it infact have a genisis in Japan, surley that must be the case and the parts were either copied and cosmeticaly altered (+ aditional bits added). Its just striking that they are identical designs.


This one is a hard back, Author Brian Long. Pretty current showing right up to Spirit R models etc, not a bad book just thought a bit more covering the Aussie exploits would have been better given the influence it had on Mazda and its model tributes that followed.

The SP it seems through more research allot more polished hardcore better made version than the M2 ever was (least in materials used and way they were made) so lots to be proud of regardless of the originality of the concept or where its true roots may have come from.




The RX7SP is the only kind of its type in the world of Mazda and a real historical piece, Australians made and perfected what the japs were too scared to do !:biggthumpup: Factory Supercar Killer!!!!

grantrx4 11-26-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 268154)
I use a custom made and RR specified motorsports turbo, nothing you can commercially buy.

Sounds very interesting

So how much air does it put out in lbs/min?

RICE RACING 12-15-2013 06:45 AM

Some dash configuration shots :)

New screens to put up kents!

RICE RACING 12-19-2013 10:49 PM

These are new shots of the ICD and some pages I use ;)

http://imageshack.com/a/img34/3889/lhdh.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img401/7053/hago.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img28/8503/ie1x.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img801/2103/5aaz.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img577/49/pwc6.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img547/9264/ghwo.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img560/6544/aksu.jpg

Dannobre 12-20-2013 09:39 AM

Nice new toys :)

RICE RACING 12-26-2013 01:23 AM



http://imageshack.com/a/img14/3509/jmr3.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img585/1055/7k1e.jpg

Pete_89T2 12-26-2013 07:06 AM

I like the customizable graphics legend by the 11.05 parameter :rofl: :cheers2:

RICE RACING 12-27-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete_89T2 (Post 271164)
I like the customizable graphics legend by the 11.05 parameter :rofl: :cheers2:

It's the BDC & HC fail safe warning alarm....

RICE RACING 02-07-2014 07:06 PM

These are some of the pages I have finalized, while on black works best in all conditions and layout etc, color gradients etc, a sample of what it looks like...

http://imageshack.com/a/img196/2985/t1ar.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img845/2055/n7cz.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img600/4631/j6zr.jpg

jacobcartmill 02-08-2014 10:11 PM

RICE, can you post some detail of how you're deciphering that data?

i am assuming it's CAN data from your EMS.

i've been wanting to start a project like this for a while, but my x86 tablet runs the haltech software/gauges well enough. yours looks PERFECT.

RICE RACING 02-09-2014 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill (Post 275289)
RICE, can you post some detail of how you're deciphering that data?

i am assuming it's CAN data from your EMS.

i've been wanting to start a project like this for a while, but my x86 tablet runs the haltech software/gauges well enough. yours looks PERFECT.

It's Pectel CAN data stream off my MQ12 ECU, it's deciphered or analysis with Pi Research Toolbox professional software (previous data shots).

I have to make a video of the dash going through demo mode, it looks really nice, though tedious amounts of programming involved to make it all work!!! I lost count how many hours I have put into the 'dash' unit alone.....

RICE RACING 12-03-2014 12:52 AM

Some updates happening ....

http://www.riceracing.com.au/Steel%20Science.jpg Link > http://www.riceracing.com.au/apex-seals.htmhttp://www.riceracing.com.au/Steel%20Science.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FaOAM3w.jpg

http://www.troll.me/images/hell-yeah...ting-thumb.jpg

Fendamonky 12-03-2014 10:14 AM

You must love your seafood mate.. Those scallops :lol: :)

C. Ludwig 12-03-2014 10:39 AM

http://essentialsofnutrition.files.w...scallops-1.jpg

speedjunkie 12-03-2014 10:58 AM

^Damn those look good haha. Sucks being deployed and getting shit food lol.

Those rotors look delicious also. I forget, are the scallops just for weight savings or do they benefit rotation in some other way? Also, the attachment on the side of the housing by the spark plug holes...is that to flow more coolant where it's hotter and those are banjo bolts? That's pretty trick. How does it attach at the blue fitting? Is that a banjo bolt also?

Fendamonky 12-03-2014 01:02 PM

I believe scalloping the rotors like that is done to extend how long the intake is open for.

C. Ludwig 12-03-2014 01:34 PM

More duration without overlap.

RICE RACING 12-03-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 293520)
^Damn those look good haha. Sucks being deployed and getting shit food lol.

Those rotors look delicious also. I forget, are the scallops just for weight savings or do they benefit rotation in some other way? Also, the attachment on the side of the housing by the spark plug holes...is that to flow more coolant where it's hotter and those are banjo bolts? That's pretty trick. How does it attach at the blue fitting? Is that a banjo bolt also?

On the RICE RACING rotors:
* primary reason is to reduce the compression ratio to allow highest power with reliable operation on any basic petrol
* gives overlap earliest possible opening and latest closing on RICE RACING street port, also improves 'flow'
* CR benefits listed below
http://i.imgur.com/ZWE6Hk4.jpg

On the plug cooling:
Its banjo style into rotor housing, and AN fitting inlet, in pic is just a block off cap.

RICE RACING 12-03-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig (Post 293549)
More duration without overlap.

As stated its mostly done to allow the correct engine compression ratio #1

On the overlap aspect:

My engines actually have quite allot, not as much as a bridge or semi pp, but enough (maximum possible on a street port) to allow high Ve at high rpm thereby improving power output and rev range. Its the best balance for an engine running on the street yields highest average power curve when matched correctly in other areas.

You can tell this when you look at equalized engines such as in my power at 1 bar NA thread. I have a very extensive list on this (far bigger than what I put in that thread),

This combo pictured with an EFR9180H and Cosmo inlet manifold on RICE RACING street port is well over 260bhp @ 1 bar (N/A) and it works to 4 bar reliably.... which is a little bit of power :biggthumpup:

Prodigy 12-03-2014 09:30 PM

That scalloped rotor is the TITS!!!



On another note, Peter, it made my day to see the banana from the rejected cartoons at the top of your webpage...

I laughed for a good bit about that...


J.

C. Ludwig 12-04-2014 09:03 AM

I didn't take into account scallops on the leading edge of the rotors. I've only ever used them on the trailing edge. So, yes, you will create overlap. Good looking work!


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