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Getting the car on the road
So, this 91 NA i purchased is becoming my DD so my dad can get his truck back. I am picking it up this weekend but I know of a few of the issues It needs worked out. The most prevelant of which is it needs to pass emissions. The smog pump was removed at one point. I have one lined up and will be doing a full tune up as well (plugs, wires, oil change, few tanks of nice fresh gas). What else should i do or need to do in order to pass the sniffer? I would love to get the car on the road, but will not even attempt to get it on the road till i am confident on its passkng and running well.
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Shit, you better start praying......lol
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Shel I hate you.
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wtf...
i thought i remember hearing around running your tank down to hear empty and putting a few bottles of HEAT before you go get tested. i could be wrong though... it also could be something else... HEAT was the first thing that came to mind when i was trying to remember. |
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heat, ill look into it.
justin, wtf? |
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All this crotch burning, and heat, and beating it.... I need to stray from the lounge more!
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A properly running FC with all emissions components should have no problems passing emissions. At the very least, you're going to need an air pump and a catalytic converter. You may need more depending on what the previous owner may have removed. It will just be a matter of what all you have to rework/replace in order to pass emissions testing.
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Emissions test huh?
Why dont you stop farting while you are in the car. |
Why hasn't this guy been banned yet? Phil, Kevin?
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Ok, got it on the road just fine. Ran a full tank and a half of fresh fuel. Tried to e-check it today (emissions in ohio) and I failed:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4...A/EPSON002.jpg As you can see, Im fine on CO and NO, but my hydrocarbons are only slightly over. Anyone have any idea on what to do to it to make it pass. Fresh fuel, new remanned air pump, new plugs, new wires (ngk only) and it is getting about 140 miles to half a tank. Its NA and the only thing i didn't replace was the air filter. What do you guys think? |
Unfortunately, this looks like your catalytic converter is weak or you are misfiring at idle.
Do you have the entire emission run printout so that we can see if it cleans up after going closed loop? You are very close, I have seen people get a pass after a fail like that just from taking the car around the block and getting it good and warm. You can try the 2-3 gallons of e85, it helped mine years ago. Be careful about too much E85 (don't ask, sore subject). Hydrocarbons are the rotary nemesis when it comes to emission testing. |
Unfortunately that is the only print out i get. If the catalytic converters are not up to par since they are the origionals, would this magnaflow direct fit work? here It eliminates the precat and add it to the main cat. Summit has it for 200, or i got a quote for 300 to get it installed at this shop. That 300 would put me in the category that if i didn't pass i could get exempt. My issue is I shopped around and nobody has the OEM at all.
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Also, there is no E85 around here that I know, would adding something like "heat" to this next tank work?
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well, running out of time, i wen ahead and ordered the 2 to 1 cat direct fit. 220 with tax, which will either pass me, or get me a hell of a lot closer to the waiver.
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Yeah, the 'heat' is methanol which is very similar to the ethanol in e85.
Either way it is oxygenated fuel. The new cat will likely fix your problem, but the rotary EGT will melt it into a glob of metal in about 2,000 miles if it is tuned correctly. You might want to find a way to put the stock ones back on after the test. |
I plan on removing the cat itself and inserting a resonated test pipe. Fresh hardware and such so that going back to emissions mode is easy.
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That works too (although I wasn't going to be the one to suggest it).
I had cats on my car until I found that they melted down almost immediately if I left them on, then I just put them on to pass emissions. They did away with emissions here, so it isn't an issue any more. |
Well, i have to pass now, then in january cause of some dumb loophole shit they have in the regulations. Im not about to drop that kind of money on cats twice
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If you leave the stock ECU in and don't change the fueling, your cats will probably be ok until January. My issue was that I was running 16:1 AFR while cruising.
I could meet emissions with my standalone, but I couldn't afford the 10 mpg penalty that I would take to do so. |
I think part of my heat issue is the cats are 20 years old, and are starting their decline to fail. I want to pull the cat after echeck and put in a resonated race pipe from corksport. Also, both my mufflers are rotted out from age, so they need replaced. For the same money, i can get the single cat back from corksport and get some flow, so that's the plan. Plus then she will shoot flames naturally.
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You should read the exhaust threads, Corksport is LOUD. If you are Ok with that, then go for it. Racing Beat is about the only option for a reasonably quiet exhaust. You can sometimes find a Racing beat system used for a reasonable price.
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alright after i read a few threads i guess i have a few options. Racing beat is expensive though, kinda out of my budget.
Mid pipe/cat/presilencer/resonator: Magnaflow cat (will melt in the long run) Corksport racepipe with resonator ($100) Racingbeat presilencer ($235) Catback/fix rusted out exhaust: Corksport single ($370) Racing beat dual ($635) Bosal stock replacement pipes ($170) with magnaflow muffler (not sure which ones to go with) Are these all my choices? I need to replace whats there asap cause its rotted at the mufflers and its starting to get chilly. I would like a single cause it would drop weight, but i dont want super loud. I also cant afford to drop too much dime on an exhaust, or i would go racingbeat instantly with their header and all |
The Borla dual catback system is another good choice, I've had one on my '7 since 2001 and it still looks & performs like it was brand new. The Borla is all SS construction (as in everything, not just the mufflers), and very similar in design to the Racing Beat dual catback. Sounds a lot like the RB system too - it's a little louder than the RB at idle & WOT, but it's a mellow deep tone. Long road trips won't torture you. Cost back then was in the $400~475 range.
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I have never heard a Borla in person, but I have heard good things about them.
I ran gutted stock cats, Stock Y pipe and Dynaflow straight-through mufflers with my stock ported 6-port with no problems with sound. Updating to Racing Beat headers and a straight pipe did not make the sound level intolerable on the 6-port (exhaust port diffusers). Then I went 4-port (no diffusers)... WOW! I couldn't drive the car. After one test drive, I left it in the driveway until I found another exhaust solution. The Racing Beat presilencer made the car tame while cruising, but it still sings pretty loud when under WOT. The best exhaust repair idea I had was buying a used Racing Beat exhaust (Complete from manifold) for $350.00. No more issues with sound (although this was on my '91 which was quieter with no exhaust after the manifold than the 4-port was with a full exhaust system minus the presilencer). Basically, if you don't have access to a welder, Corksport may be Ok because you have diffusers in your exhaust ports. Otherwise, you could try finding some decent Piston engine mufflers and welding them to your factory Y pipe. My thought with buying racing beat is this: If I will be spending money on something else and saving to buy the RacingBeat exhaust, I should just wait until I can afford the racing beat exhaust. Watch Craigslist and eBay, sometimes you get a deal. |
An update. New Magnaflow cat and corksport 2.5" catback installed. Passed emissions this time. Its not too loud, manageable for me. Is better than the rusted out mufflers were, and feels much better up top. Also, i switched to premixing, half to one, with the stock OMP in place just for good measure.
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Awesome! Congrats on passing emissions. I am glad that the cat fixed it.
I should say that the last time I failed emissions, I gave up on the stock ECU and went aftermarket. I found a broken vacuum line as I was removing the rats nest. I realize that is why it failed, but I put the Haltech in anyway. The funniest part is that they did away with emissions for vehicles older than a '96 right after I had the Haltech tuned. I still have absolutely no intent to go back. If you read my sig, you will see why. |
Just thought I'd toss out a hello tweiss...I spent many years in NE Ohio...got my degree from Kent State. How's things going in the town that has more cloudy days than any other area of the US?
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Lol, kent read, kent write, kent state (im an akron grad). Everything is survivable here i suppose, economy sucks though. Where did you move to and why.
Also, is it normal to be getting about 15-16 mpg mixed driving with my only mods being the exhaust and a cone filter? Also, i want to replace the gear oil with schaeffers in both the diff. And the trans. Anything special i need to know? Any old gl4 should do, right? I have the stock open diff. One last thing, any way to easily calibrate the spedo? Mine is saying i am going 5 mph faster than i am actually am going. |
^I originally went to Akron but didn't like it. I lived in Akron but drove to Kent for classes. I left NE Ohio in 2001, right as LTV was going under and U of A was getting it's renovations.
I'm in Southern Indiana now and the economy here is pretty bad also. Whirlpool just closed up shop and moved to Mexico so things are pretty depressed here. I'm thinking of moving again.... |
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