Good shops in the Nw.
 

Rotaryworkz.com

Local oregon shop

Busy

why does he call a reseal a "rebuild"? he should probably rephrase that one since it has to have almost all used parts for $750.

JM Classic Imports.

Pineapple Racing (if you arte lucky enough to have Rob do the work)

Robert lappolis.

Jesus Rodriguez (sp?)

Atkins Rotary.

Jerrys little car shop.


These are not in order, just the good ones :)

The rotaryworkz rebuilds were for those who could not afford the 5k plus motors from the other shops in the nw such as pineapple (who clearly claim on the faq page they use the same motors, seal kit, but for the thousands more you get two new housings, although with the three motors we have torn down from them, there were not new housings??)........... The seal kit was a full soft seal kit and if you note the core provided had to have good hard seals or they had to provide hard seals, or we would at cost..... However the site is down now and the new one is up..

Rotaryworkz was changed due to the title nearly copying another, the staff was fired and the business model changed to suit those who are about the cars and not the business. We still offer those rebuilds, but at 1500$ we offer the full kit with all seals. And then if you want new housings,ect its just at cost.... Compare prices and you will wonder how much they think their assembly time is actually worth...

:)

Um... if you consider the hours involved to do a rebuild CORRECTLY and add in the cost of parts required for it, $3,000+ (for a keg alone) is perfectly fair. The time and labor involved to NOT half-ass a rebuild pushes well beyond your quoted $1,500. Hell, it took a good 15 hours of work to prep, clearance, arrange and stack my last rebuild (for the record, I didn't build the engine myself, my friends did and it was built in my home. My friends can/would run circles around you on anything rx-7). I used the last BRAND NEW (from Mazda) 13B-REW in America as my donor engine, so we didn't even need to worry much about cleaning... Add to that time frame the additional costs of consumables (I wanna say the basic seals needed will run you $900) and replacement/repair of out of spec parts and your $1,500 price is looking stupidly cheap. Please find an emphasis on "stupid".

Do you even check wear during rebuilds? You obviously don't check apex/side/corner seal clearances, since you blindly reuse them. The ONLY reason I can see where you would get away with a "rebuild" that just replaces the soft seals is if you had a fresh engine with a soft seal failure, that's only going to account for *maybe* 10% of the engines needing rebuilds though. You think it's acceptable to charge people $1,500 to leave 90% of their problems unaddressed?

I'm not even going into the time and effort required to pull and reinstall an engine, then make sure the car can drive happily away.

I'm sorry, if you wanna kick out cheap-ass budget rebuilds then advertise them as such. Don't compare your "services" rendered to competently done jobs and then harp on how their prices are too high (as a selling point for you). You're offering people Filet Mignon but serving them expired Chuck...

I rebuild them using the same parts as every other shop, i check the parts the same as every shop, my motors last as long as every shops.... You may not be competent or capable of doing it for this price, i am. Sorry you have failed. ;)

You should call your "rebuilds" a "refresh". A true "rebuild" is not 1500$ sorry that you might think so but your wrong and misleading customers that way. A refresh is a better way to put it.

There are plenty of rebuild videos available that will show you step by step how to do it. Why not do it yourself?
Take your time and even use superior housings. Send yer stuff to Goopy.Have it all clearenced and balanced.
Just a thought.

Good call Bruce..!

Call it a refresh? Why not call every motor not built with new irons, housings, rotors, bearings, gears, pumps, bla bla bla all refreshed motors? If its not new, its used, if it is used it is being rebuilt. Right?

re·fresh (r-frsh)
v. re·freshed, re·fresh·ing, re·fresh·es
v.tr.
1. To revive with or as if with rest, food, or drink; give new vigor or spirit to.
2. To give new freshness or brightness to; restore.
3. To make cool, clean, or moist; freshen up.
4. To renew by stimulation: refresh one's memory.


re·build
verb \(ˌ)rē-ˈbild\

: to build (something) again after it has been damaged or destroyed

: to make important improvements or changes in (something)


Pineapple, fd3s, you , me, atkins.... no one is selling brand new zero mile motors to people for.. well ok, there are a few high end places mazdatrix, rb, ect, but how many people here have bought a 45k turn key 20b or a 14k rew? I doubt many if any.

So all the shops in the usa are doing the same thing.. with the same kit. and that same procedures.... So i cannot do what they can for 1500? Why? Pineapple racing is full of shit, they do not use new housings with each build, i have torn down several of their motors new and used and they fucking bs like every shop in the world does. upsales and product name drops. Its all about the face and no one will question it.

There is no college here for this, no online certification, no regulation. I watch these shops fuck people over and i am not interested in that anymore. I'm going to at least help those who are smart enough to help themselves :)

So yeah again i will state this clear as day... I can do, i do it and will continue to build motors for 1500$ using the same seal kits, the same tools and the same knowledge as the shops surrounding me. I'm sorry it is what it is. However hating that i am doing this or just not wanting to believe it does not change that i have been and i am. :)

if they're advertising their rebuilds as built with new housings and they are not, let them worry about that, lawsuits will ensue if they are. i find it strange that i have never once heard anyone mention this, because it's rather obvious if an engine has new housings or not even without cracking it open.

you can ignore the other thread if you wish but it's just making things look worse for you. a rebuilt engine also should give an average compression figure and tow starting should not be the first resort. i saw your posts on the other forum, but you couldn't answer the phone or call the customer back? of course you can claim it wasn't you, but anyone with an ounce of common sense could tell it was.

everyone has to deal with constructive criticism at some point but owning up to mistakes determines whether you will succeed or fail. by the way, i have never built an engine and let it leave the shop that produced virtually zero compression on ANY rotor. if your procedures are exactly the same as every other shop, yet theirs start with little difficulty, perhaps you need to rethink your claim.

what i suggest is refining your build procedures and put them to actual real world testing before selling them. i include a 3 page nearly 100 step installation manual with any engine i sell, to be sure the installers are at least attempting to do the job correctly. claiming wanting to help the community with affordable rebuilds so far hasn't really seemed to live up to that, my rebuilds have ranged in price from $1200-1600 over the years and not one customer has ever been left feeling like they did not get their money's worth... well maybe one, who happened to overheat his engine after he installed it and wasn't monitoring water temps and tried to get me to pay for shipping both ways even though i covered the reseal for FREE(even though my warranty coverage specifically sais it does not cover overheating due to negligence).

back when RX7 store was selling engines i received one from them for a customer to install, the oil pump gear was about to fall off the pump and this was a $3600 "race" engine with used housings and a street port on it. i had to argue with jason to actually allow me to disassemble the front of the engine to fix the problem, he was adamate that it was "normal", when i removed the front cover guess what? the retaining nut was loose and barely holding the lock washer to the gear/pump. since then have i ever recommended them for a rebuild that i could not get to first? no. even though i am a rebuilder i do refer work all over the country.

if you dive in feet first without checking the water, you might just wind up with broken legs.

Typical Joe Maddox build?
0 psi on rear rotor as delivered!!

http://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generatio...tempt-1049229/

:lol: yeah he already ruined his cred here too with his arrogance, and completely ignored that same thread when it was posted for his attention in another area he was spewing in.

perhaps he took the mark twain quote to heart.

there's not much so far that can be said about those recent events, you can't screw up a compression test so badly that you get 50psi on one rotor and 0 on the next so something is obviously wrong.

whether or not he is going to pay to ship it, fix it and ship it back remains to be seen and i find it doubtful that will ever happen. so for now all we can do is assume is that all the bullshit is just that and he is moved now to being a thief since he has yet to back up his work or even mentioned that he would do anything.

if he wants to continue he would have to make it right and make that known, otherwise no one is going to trust him.

and i'm not saying this because i prefer to talk shit about people, i don't want to see people screwed over for anyone's self teaching lessons to be paid for by others. learn to do the job before considering it a "business", with rotaries this comes with experience which clearly is lacking.

clear and simple.... Stuck seal from crisco. Not blown, sat and hardened. Same thing happened with my rhd motor, chris's (or should i say the motor marc is claiming), the motor to the white fc that they are saying is dead, but is not, but is dead, but is not. as they dont want to give me the motor, but they cannot say its not what it is lol.

No i dont need to defend myself from the spam account posting links. How many of you are actually shocked that a kid with a fc, that has little to know experience with mechanics (obviously) has had a hard time setting up and breaking in a new rotary motor in a old fc? Wow, never heard of that before. guess it must be my fault, or maybe its as it was for all other motors i have built and he is just retarded... funny how if i install a motor or i give one to a person who knows how to install it, it runs. two motors built now sent to people who are not capable and its not starting. Bet as the last one did, it gets sold, i get shit, the next buyer puts it in and tinkers, it fires up and is still running around today... yep. But i guess we dont like talking about that huh, makes me look like you guys are just ass holes XD

No i do the same builds, a rebuilt motor without new housings is as banzai and RR do it, many other places as well. Those who offer new housings charge a couple grand more, so even if i were to offer new housings at price with my 1500$ build i am still a grand under the cheapest place... so again, same parts and knowledge, just different in pricing...

BTW, when the motor left my shop, it was hitting on all faces, like a new motor should... imagine that, it sat, hardened and now there is a stuck seal... guess how you unstick a seal that has lard holding it in place...... Its lard, i'll give ya a few guesses, its easy lol...... So you are clearly here just talking shit...

But hey, imagine that a rotary shop, talking shit on a rotary shop? no way, that shit does not happen here? This is a site for the community! XD BTW i am not worried about you and the opinions you spout, if the two sites are compared, i feel i have the better presentation for showing experience...

calling your customer retarded is basically saying you aren't going to do shit for him, i'm going to tell him to go ahead with the paypal claim and he should use all of this as evidence for his claim.

just selling an engine isn't the end of the line, unless you are specifically selling blown motors.. in which case it seems you are so far succeeding at.

btw, i spent 2 hours putting my site together and it does the job it was meant to do and that is all it was meant to do. saying someone has a crappy website when they actually know very little about HTML coding versus building engines is a bit of a stretch for an attack.

in over 10 years and 300 engines, hundreds of tunes and thousands of other misc repairs i've only had 1 complaint lodged against myself. it was by a person who had no work done, ran into financial hardship and wanted a full refund after i spent hours upon hours ordering parts and setting everything up for his build and tried to get a little over $100 for my effort in sitting on parts for his engine that i had to wait and sell to someone else, in which everyone convinced me against my better judgement to refund him the full amount. so i'm not too worried about who will be around tomorrow, all of this was to try and get you to figure out what needed to be done but you apparently want to put your shortcomings on other people and take their money.

Please explain why it is necessary to use Crisco in an engine build? Lard? Good God man...

Now I've heard everything.... Crisco in a engine rebuild? Seriously? Assembly lube isn't hard to find, and its cheap.

http://youtu.be/nz8kO5Mdnrc

Lets lay JM Classic Imports and Joe Maddox to rest... should have refunded my money scumbag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GumUylz6gU

You pulled the video because you are a stupid person and let that pedophile chris convince you it was blown because you were not near smart enough to follow the simple instructions and common sense procedures all mechanics use to put a motor in. When I produced the video showing how stupid you were and that the motor was great, you were just left looking stupid.

However the rotary community has always been like hanging out in a high school hallway.

^ Would you fuck off (again) and stop trying to pretend you're anything other than a scumbag conman? :rofl:

ANYBODY that doesn't know your reputation yet should steer WELL clear of you based on your lack of knowledge (cooking products inside an an engine? really?? Still makes me :lol:) and HORRENDOUS customer service (calling a paying customer a "retard" is about as unprofessional as it gets)..

Piss off.

There is not one person who has a bad thing to say about me... You keep saying there is someone scammed, I am a scumbag, but you have not one reason for it other than I am rude to people who listen to lies from bitter fired employees and try to sink my business...

Again, enjoy being on the side of the pedophile and the retard who still cannot figure out the simplest of tasks years later, does not make me look bad or look credible... He had no business trying to install a motor and should not have made claims he had to take back due to it being a provable lie.

You have nothing to show against me other than your personal, unjustified, dislike for me. ;)

Like I said on all the threads you follow me around on, let me know when you have something to show that I have done wrong... Thanks :)

Also I am glad you think that Pinnaple racing is a shit company with no knowledge or skills... Might want to watch that video I posted buddy lol...

Your level of delusional has peaked above 9000 :rofl:


By the way... speaking in absolutes (which you seem to do pretty often) is a terrible idea, all it takes is a single example to refute your entire statement. Several of those already exist in the multiple threads you've created... So I'm not going to bother hunting them down, if you can't recognize them when they're directed to you by the paying customers who you've wronged, then me restating them won't matter.

You're a fucking idiot. Oh, and fyi... The guy you keep accusing of being a pedophile (Chris) isn't, you're an insecure bitch who's trying to drag outside people into drama because you can't even figure out peoples names... Bravo.

Chris Weigel Of Corvallis Oregon...
 

Classic response from the RCC troll... Not a name to list that I have wronged???
You keep acting like Jared was wronged and I owe him... Again, the video is proof you are wrong, he wronged me by being a stupid girl and listening to gossip from a person I no longer wanted working with me and lashed out.

That is why he pulled his video and there was never a video of the motor taken apart to prove his claim...

So there is and never has been one person who has a bad claim against me. I am finishing up another video about chris if you would like to know more about him. However you opinion of a person you do not know does not mean anything when the facts are so present.

Here is him telling me again that nothing happened when he (a man over 30) meet a girl under the age of 18 on the internet, taking her out on a date and trying to use the car I built him to win her over... Then when the night was over he took her back to her parents house, who were not home, and he says he just told her good night and went home and spanked it...

Shows character to those who do not know him. Considering his friend from childhood who lived with him did the same thing although they were fine with saying he banged them (because the girls parents were ok with a 30 year old man fucking a 15 year old) and chris was ok with this, shows more to his character.

When after that goes down a 7 year old girl is raped in his house while he is there, his friend confesses to it and he still backs his friend as he heads off to prison, shows more to his character and moral intents.

The man stole my work and talked shit on me to all who would listen. Trolls like you made it what it was and it is done now. All that is left here is who chris is, what happened. Let me know when there is one person who has a claim that I scammed...

Chris Weigel (Bearzah) Of Corvallis Oregon
 

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Slow your role... Who the hell are you even talking about now? Are you REALLY going on a tirade about some random dude from your corner of nowhere, who's not even on the forum, let alone around to defend themselves from your accusations? Have you ever been sued for libel? Because your statements sound a LOT like something which could land you in legal troubles... You might want to throw your little hissy-fit into reverse there, genius.

How the hell do you even REMOTELY consider yourself to be any sort of a respectable "business owner" or even an ethical human being if you're going on like that?

Seriously man, you need a fucking vacation or something :rofl: You probably belong in counseling instead of the internet..

Some random dude... Right.

Let me know when you have the name of one person who has a claim that I have wronged them. Let me know when you can fulfill your claim I am a scammer. All I hear are claims from you without names or events.

I expect you will come back with not one name, so I assume we are now done here.