borgwarner kits
 

We are almost done with our 8374 EFR kits, price will run $4000

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Whats included in your "kit"

turbo, downpipe, manifold, lines and fittings

Looks similar to turblown but priced a little less and manifold has a longer runners.

Will be interesting to see how this spools up vs the shorter turblown manifold.

Slower because physics and math

car will be dyno in about 1 1/2 week

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Thought you hired a new welder?

What size tubing is that on the mani and DP

.96 3inch dp

size tubing on the mani

2 inch

I'm no engineer, fabricator, or tuner, but 2" seems a bit large to me? (I'll have to check the diameter of my a-spec manifold at home)

I would think that large diameter manifold piping would give priority to overall volume at the expense of velocity. Exhaust velocity = boost response, no?

Like pulling teeth....
2" TUBING or PIPE?

And just because I know you're not going to say it... wall thickness if tubing?

2.29mm pipe

OK so that's tubing not pipe which is a huge difference... and unless my math is off that's only .090" wall thickness which sorry to say is not nearly strong enough. And if the OD is a nominal 2" with a .090 wall the ID is considerable larger that the commonly accepted 1.5" schedule 40 PIPE which is generally used to build mani's.... in other words I would love to see it on the dyno and see the a legitimate dyno that also has a boost curve plotted vs rpm and compare it to other mani's.

I think some people are way too harsh.....

The header looks great, big pipes DO work well. You need to analysis on allot of set ups to see this in reality.

More people should be making thing (my personal view) and encouraged, this will be the only thing that keeps the rotary alive.

Keep up the good work man.

You should buy one of those manifolds and run it Peter!:rofl:


Also since when is constructive criticism too HARSH? In the end we are trying to help him make a better product. How is that not encouragement?


No one has even said one negative thing..

Sorry! to burst your bubble but it's sch 10 pipe and more than strong enough, I have made other manifolds with it. The same pipe that all other rotary shops use, I knew you couldn't wait to bring something up.

Thanks ricer, you just can't win with some people no matter what you do. They are just nasty people who have nothing to do in life.

People can be c-u-n-t-s but so long as you keep on working creating and getting better then keep it up. I know I coped allot of low lifes opinions over time from the day I started out, the one thing I will say to you, dozens of those c-u-n-t-s and ones like them (today on the internet) come and go, ultimately is people in this world who do and then ones who talk/type.

Need more doers and less talkers :biggthumpup:

Ok whatever just take a look at his Vendor page before you give this guy any business. It's all there plain as day.

Hey! Dumb F. I've been working on rotary for 18 yrs, the only thing I had bad was I let someone else make a manifold, while I was out of the country and some used bins got damage during shipping. All customers were refunded their money so go suck off some where. I'm getting tired of your shit. You don't have to buy anything from me so stay out of my threads.

Yes I know we have talked before. Thanks for showing the great human being you are once again too.

Yeah that manifold was terrible. These I am not even going to comment on.


If you don't want people posting and speculating your products don't post them here. It is not my problem you have the resolve of a small girl and are offended easily. All I ever said was I thought you fired that welder? Then you passively call names so I posted some crap about you. See how it works?

I think you both misunderstood and are thinking you are under attack. You post F/S threads with a lot of missing information that people want. I think that is what TT was attempting to get out of you at first.

Me I just wanted to poke fun at ya and you had to call names and be offensive so I poked back. I am over it are you?

ALL other rotary shops.... That's a pretty bold statement, you sure about there buddy?

Oh, and fair warning... Calling people names is not only bad business practice, it's also against forum rules... Especially a professional certified welder when talking about, you know, welding... Just saying.

Having said that, I do agree with RR, we need more doers in this works as opposed to interment hacks which is why I applaud you for making a very different manifold from the other proven one out there, both in design AND materials and I anxiously await dyno results with MAP vs RPM

I've been through this shit on other forums. my advice is build a bridge and get over it, better yet, build something for rotaries and show it :)

This place I find better than any of the others I have been in, I dont know this bloke nor am I sticking up for him any other way than its good to see people post stuff on here that is rotary related and is good.

FUCK KNOWS there is enough Howard Colemans in this world and shit forums like GAYCLUB7.com

Fucken GET ON IT :-Oc==3
Get out there and build some thing, test some cars, contribute and do it, no point having a go at someone for having the guts to get out there and make something, a man who has never made a mistake has never done anything!

Pants off to anyone who builds things and contributes I say. I talked shit for years against c-u-n-t-s apex seals, when I should have been out there long ago building them correctly!. Same for anyone if you can do better go fucken make it! any rotary product or service.

Cheebs you can weld n shit, go make a manifold mate! till then leave this poor c-u-n-t alone, unless of course he talked shit against you or ripped you off or something else I am not aware of? then do that in a vendor thread?

All I can tell you is its hard enough and there is not enough people like us who actually make things, getting shat on by internet c-u-n-t-s and or other groupies while may be a tactic for some to get rid of competition or petty retribution, it is nothing less than a low act and pretty poor given someone is getting out there and doing things. Be they good or bad will pan out with honest review on any one said product or service in good time.

Only thing I would say in regards to this manifold, dump pipe, turbo system, put up some more info when you can, performance figures etc.

Peter

No! Your just being a dick, every thread I start you are always posting some smart-ass comments.

I never responded to your smart comment

As I said above I just poked some fun and was called names etc so I poked back. Didn't even comment about his new product. :smilielol5:


You did start the Mental Retardation and the Internet Forums that cause them right? I R Confused...

:rofl:

I will be in my Trashcan if anyone needs me...

* That is the thread highlighting useless c-u-n-t-s and people who outright think they are engineers but only know about penis love. IE: Brian D Cain & Howard Coleman types ;) promise the world and deliver an Atlas.

Stop spamming this blokes thread/s. Let him try to make a living, people can see what is what, that is my view, I will stay out of it now, but suffice to say I know what its like to have c-u-n-t-s always talk shit in internet postings, thankfully I don't need the internet anymore, but I know what its like relying on it as a form of communication and to have people stalk you and talk shit is not only wrong but its pretty malicious and petty, speaks more of the low life doing the trash talking than any 'service' or public good they think they may be doing, specially if the person has addressed concerns you may have raise prior. NOT saying you are a low life cheebs or anyone here as I know you all love anus.

And YES I did get your email with the dog shit welding example and yes it was bad, but he did seem to say it was an ass pirate who did that who is no longer there, and this version honestly looks not too bad, so give the poor c_U-N-T a break.............. that is my last word here.

Short of being a CON MAN fuckwit like Brian D Cain or Hoard Coleman who both are proven to never have a running car OR talk anything resembling reality I dont condone a witch hunt against anyone if they have not blatantly ripped anyone off or knowingly sold a shit product.

2nd last words lol.

Who is spamming all that was done to get people their money...but I will keep responding.

Both he has done with multiple businesses. Read the threads Hypocrite..

Don't act high and mighty Peter you are the DON MEGA of bashing **** as you say everywhere. Even going as far as hoping he will kill himself. So spare me the BS.



Also why don't you guys attack the mod who made ALL THE COMMENTS... All I did was help other forum members get their money from this guy who ripped them off Fact. Wonder why he Mad?




Now if you want me to leave this thread quit responding and I will do the same.




I ALSO HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE NEW PRODUCTS!

You had no factor in me refunding people their money, none what so ever Period. I worked for rx7store for 12 yrs and handle everything over there, I have never tried to rip anyone off in my life. You have a problem and need some seriously help, you gave me negative itrader score and you have never bought anything from me. You keep showing up in my threads with smartass comments, Phil already warned you once about it. I have been running this business for going on 9yrs now with a lot of happy customers, you can't stay in business for that long if I'm scamming people.

where do you get multiple business from

Yeah I remember Rx7 Store it cost me $350 I am still out. You haven't been staying in business you have been shut down, ran out, and started one after the other. Thanks for bringing all that up though. All I said was "I thought you hired a new welder" Read it comprehend it and get back to me.

I understand you say it had nothing to do with me but I made the stink to make it all happen. So that those customers stood up for themselves. I just looked through all of your threads. I commented in the 2 Mitch started to get his refund. So much spamming and Smart comments where?

So let me get this right Mich bought about $7000.00 dollars of parts from me received all his parts and the only thing that was bad was the manifold. I refunded him and that makes me a scammer.
Used bins damage in shipping tabs broken off, to customer to put in a fedex claim. That didn't happen, refund customer and I'm a scammer. WOW grow the F-up please

Oooh in before the changeup.


Zavier I am done with it. Keep aspiring to do better and don't force quality testing on the customer.