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Chickenwafer's Never Over Turbo 8 Build
Hey guys! I'm from 8club and figured I could post up some stuff here.
I've been slowly building my 8 for the past 2 years or so to get her to this point. She is still far from done as I have many other ideas and projects on a to-do list. When I first brought her home, January 2007: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/IMG_0762.jpg Moving slowly: After some parts went on- suspension and most notably a GT Factory Diablo vertical door kit: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...afer/pavs2.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...afer/pavs4.jpg Some more parts rolling in a few months later: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...wcamera029.jpg new short shifter: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...goodies005.jpg A month or so later, new rims! http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...wwheels001.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...wwheels006.jpg After that, I got into more hands on stuff: Custom Battery relocation: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...yandAEM004.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...yandAEM007.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...yandAEM002.jpg Then a custom CarPC and screen mount: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install003.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install004.jpg RB gauge pod with ProSport water and oil temp and AEM UEGO wideband: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install002.jpg Cables ran under the passenger seat for the CarPC: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install008.jpg And a USB hub in the glovebox: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install009.jpg |
More CarPC Stuff:
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...wiresFS018.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...wiresFS019.jpg Custom RoadRunner Skin (a deck that I can use to play MP3's, Video, GPS, etc) http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...wiresFS020.jpg Got bored so I starting polishing some of the GReddy aluminum charge pipes: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...dypipes012.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...dypipes013.jpg I got my Black Halo Racing (BHR) Aluminum oversized radiator (made by Griffin so you know it's good) http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...adiator002.jpg Rad install, so much fun! http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install002.jpg |
Now it's time for Teh Turbo!
Tearing out stock parts: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install001.jpg stock exhaust manifold out of the way. Renesis, weird exhaust ports: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install004.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install005.jpg New Garrett GT3071R twin ball bearing Turba! http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install021.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install026.jpg The turbo in! http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install038.jpg Not a whole lot of space: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install037.jpg You can barely see the compressor housing peaking through the manifold and motor mount: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install039.jpg FMIC all mounted up: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install054.jpg Custom aluminum cold air intake: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install070.jpg Had to extend the MAF harness: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install069.jpg Had to radius the downpipe holes for the dp nuts to clear: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install081.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install080.jpg Sort of finished, using a temp air filter until I could find one that fit behind the bumper http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...install091.jpg Installing a Snow Stage 2 Water/Meth kit: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Harley001.jpg Painted the solenoid and made a bracket to hold it: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Harley003.jpg Made some custom brackets to hold the tank and painted them as well: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Harley004.jpg And mounted the controller to the back of the tank and covered it with a piece of aluminum sheet to protect it. http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Harley005.jpg Pump mounted on a custom bracket that mounts where the factory electric air pump goes: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Harley006.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q.../Harley008.jpg Custom LS2 Yukon GM ignition coil setup: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...project006.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...project007.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...project009.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...project015.jpg |
Most recent photos, 12.06.08
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/...a0b683ff_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/...93542691_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3289/...f0d3259d_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/...e51744e1_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/...eb7ca934_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/...0c6738bf_o.jpg Current Modifications: Engine/Performance MazdaManiac/Garrett GT3071R custom modified oil/water cooled dual ball bearing turbocharger Modified GReddy cast iron turbo manifold Modified GReddy cast iron turbo downpipe Modified aluminum GReddy cold side pipping K&N polished aluminum MAF housing Custom 3.5" polished aluminum cold air intake K&N cone air filter Custom aluminum bar-and-plate air-to-air front mounted 28" core intercooler ATP Turbo 5-ply blue silicone couplers ATP Turbo custom internal wastegate actuator, 7 psi, with custom mounting bracket GReddy Type-RS Blow-off valve Snow Performance Boost Cooler Stage 2 MAP water/meth injection kit Denso 730cc P2 fuel injectors Custom LS2 Ignition System Upgrade, custom aluminum mounting bracket MSD 8.5mm silicone spark plug wires NGK leading and trailing spark plug set Agency Power polished underdriven crank pulley HKS Hi-Power single-outlet cat-back exhaust with adjustable titanium tip Custom 3" catless straight midpipe with 2 O2 sensor bungs, heat wrapped Optima Red Top battery Custom trunk-mounted battery kit GReddy 1.3bar radiator cap Black Halo Racing custom oversized aluminum radiator GReddy polished aluminum air diversion panel Racing Beat water temp adaptor Racing Beat oil temp/press sandwich adaptor Racing Beat oil cooler and A/C Condensor screens Throttle Body Coolant bypass MazdaManiac radiator fan switch Axial Flow Engineering (AFE) Short throw shifter Spectre blue breather filter Custom rotor-shaped oil filler cap Richard Sohn OMP adapter US Plastics 2-quart tank for Sohn OMP adapter with custom brackets ACT Heavy-duty street clutch disc and Pressure plate Fidanza lightweight aluminum flywheel with replaceable friction surface Mazda OEM flywheel counterweight Rotary Performance braided stainless steel clutch hose COBB Tuning AccessPORT with custom turbo maps Suspension Koni Sport Yellow dual tube shocks Sprint Performance lowering springs front and rear (185 lb-ft front, 100 lb-ft rear) GReddy GREX Triple Tube polished front strut tower brace Wheels/Tires/Brakes Gram Lights 57 Maximum light grey painted 18x8.5" +45mm wheels Riken Raptor tires by BFGoodrich 245/45ZR-18 tires all around G2 hi-temp brake caliper paint kit (gold) Polak Graphics red RX-8 brake caliper stencils Hawk HPS Ferro brake pads front/rear Mazdatrix braided stainless steel brake line set StopTech slotted front and rear brake rotors Exterior Genuine Mazdaspeed painted front bumper Genuine Mazdaspeed painted full side skirts GT Factory Vertical Diablo door kit Seibon KS Evo-style genuine Carbon Fiber hood Custom RockBlocker clear bra on Seibon CF hood NRG Carbon Fiber hood dampers JDM Clear Corners Mazdaspeed carbon fiber license plate frame Interior Monster ball-type shift knob Eonon 7" LCD TFT Color touch screen VGA monitor MazdaParts flip-up 7" screen mount PIE Aux Audio-In adaptor Custom Boxcar Solutions CarPC (AMAZING!!!) Hymee Enhanced sCANalyser PCM OBD-II scan tool ProSport 52mm Premium full-sweep electric peak/warning gauges -Oil Pressure -Oil Temperature -Water Temperature Racing Beat 3-gauge 52mm ashtray fiberglass gauge pod AEM UEGO Air/Fuel ratio gauge AEM Universal 52mm electronic LED boost gauge Custom Mounted GReddy E-01 Electronic Boost Controller Escort Solo 2 wireless radar detector Viper 5900 2-way paging alarm with starter kill Viper Field Distrubance (radar) Sensor module (Proxy sensor) |
very very nice. Got any vids of it boosting?
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Looking good!
I've seen this car in real life and must say its one of the nicest done up turbo RX8 builds in Arizona. |
Thanks!
And Joff, that means a lot! We have a lot of nice cars out here as you know And no vids yet. I want to get some nice photos as I am constantly moving stuff around in the engine bay. I also just bought an engine stand and Pineapple Racing adapter so I can pull the engine soon, but it's still running good so I will prob wait. |
Nice "8", nice build. Congrats.
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Nice 8. Probably one of my favs
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oh crap, nice thread dave
now i'm gonna have to make one |
No, you suck!
I'm working on collecting more metal fab equipment so I can start on a secret squrrel custom kit soon. I just need a TIG welded (ya, just) and I have my eye on this cool portable electric bandsaw that snaps into a base to use as a normal bandsaw as well... It's amazing how bored you get with stuff LOL |
Holy crap, good stuff man! :icon_tup:
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Hows the high temp enamel holding up on the turbo manifold though? |
nice work man!!!
my only gripe is the lambo doors...lose those rice-hinges and you're good to go. |
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And about the doors, it's a weld on kit and required A LOT of work, bottom line is they're not coming off, LOL. I agree they got played out and Civic's look ghey with them, but I honestly think the 8 lends itself well to the exotic look. They just look so sinister. I like em, so they stay, LOL. There are a select few cars that can pull off the look and I think the 8 is one of them |
alright alright, well anyway, the car looks great and the turbo setup looks pretty sweet as well.
have you run it at the track yet? or on the dyno? |
WOW! great build!
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Dyno, I did 302-rwhp, 232 tq @ 9psi with a very safe tune, 10.9 AFRs and retarded timing. I've done tuning since then and would love to get her back on the dyno soon! Quote:
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Meh... it is ok I guess....
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Better have a word with his fabricator...:reddevil: |
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Dave,
Wow... awesome build. I know that we've only met a few times, but I'm impressed with what you've done to your ride. The fabrication work is top notch and I love the attention to detail. Very, very nice!! |
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When is your FD going to be done? Love that yellow beast |
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I will try and make it. I'm leaving Phoenix next friday so this is really my last weekend to do anything
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Hey, please bring back the "girl-on-girl" avatars. Somehow the clean-cut Japan-amation just doesn't fit your style (IMO) ;) Are you going to church or something?? |
Car PC
The build looks terrific. I know you had a link to the car PC web site. What was the model number of the PC you used.
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So I haven't been here in a while
Figured I could bump this with some updates: First is I dyno'ed last weekend. After some issues with my boost controller my boost was seriously limited and I couldn't get boost to peak over 13.5psi First run was on lower boost at 10.5psi or so: http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...ost317rwhp.jpg Ended up with 317-rwhp and 287 ft-lbs of torque. After reviewing the logs of the run it turned out my knock sensor was picking up noise from the dyno rollers and pulling up to 10 degrees of timing at torque peak!! I basically turned the knock sensor off, LOL, and did another run at 13.5psi, which was the max my GReddy E-01 was letting me do (I found up later I had it setup wrong, doh!) http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...0rwhp326tq.jpg 330-rwhp and 326 ft-lbs of torque! Holy balls that's a lot of torque, haha. That pull was at 13.5psi peak and trailing down to 9psi by 8,000 rpm. I also found out I was running a pretty high timing split so I was able to clean it up but I ran out of time on the dyno so I couldn't make a pull with the new map So then the other day I was getting my boost controller settings figured out and tuning it on a back street. Was hitting 14psi by 3900rpm and it was feeling rather brutal! The spool was intensely quick. So I did a run, and boost was falling off slightly, so I pulled over and made adjustments, then went for another run.... I hit 14psi before 4k and started to spin tire a little, but like an idiot I stayed in the throttle and the tires hooked back up. BANG! My shifter popped out of 3rd gear and the transmission started making death noises... I quickly clutched in and tried to shift into 4th, but it wouldn't. I coasted into a parking lot and after a minuet or so of frustration I was able to get it into a drive gear and limp the car home. Motor is fine, but transmission is pretty bad. I'm almost positive the shift fork for 3-4 is bent and all my syncro's are gone, LOL. My trans has been an issue really for the last 10,000 miles, tho. It's grinded 2nd, 3rd and occasionally 4th. And about 1500 miles ago went I swapped fluid for Redline MT90 there was a shift detent ball stuck on the magnet of the drain plug. So I knew the tranny was a time bomb. Plus these 6-speed Aisin gearboxes are just trash. Which is why I am considering doing an FD RX-7 5-speed gearbox swap. The biggest hurdles of the FD gearbox are: -Transmission is longer and shifter doesn't line up, but it's not off by much (about 4"). Apparently you can cut down the linkage and move the shifter forward by the amount required -Obviously mounting locations are different. The stock 8 trans is mounted on the passenger side to the PPF and the FD trans is mounted on the driver side and bottom from what I have gathered. So custom mounts are required. I am going to keep the stock RX8 PPF. -The RX8 is a push type clutch, FD is a pull type clutch? Or so I have gathered, maybe some people here can shed light on this... -Custom driveshaft is required since the RX8 carbon fibre unit is too long and the FD unit is too short. I need a driveshaft roughly 13 inches longer than the FD d-shaft. The Good news: -Bellhousing bolts right up -Uses the same 240mm flywheel and clutch combo like the RX8 so I don't need to swap any of that stuff (luckily too since I have a lightweight billet Fidanza fly and ACT Stage 2 clutch already) -FD transmission is much stronger, cheaper, easier to find, easier to get rebuild kits, etc than the RX8 6-speed gearbox. I can pick up an FD trans all day long for about 1/3 to 1/4 of the cost of a used RX8 gearbox. So even if the initial cost of the swap is more expensive than just throwing another RX8 gearbox in, it will pay for itself once I don't blow anything LOL So that is where I am at right now. I was also wondering if I could use the Re-Amemyia D1GP short shifter (don't see why not) and if it's a good shifter? FD guys? Here's a link: http://www.corksport.com/re-amemiya-...r-for-rx7.html So I am still weighting options. I have a line a stock RX8 trans for $500 + Ship or I can pick up an FD trans for under $300 bucks. If anyone here is selling an FD trans and wan't to hook a brother up let me know! Haha. Even if someone has a completely BLOWN FD trans I will pay for shipping if you can send it to me so I can use it for mock-up and see if it's even worth it. Thanks guys |
What about the Turbo 2 tranny? They are solid and are also a push type clutch. It will bolt up to the renny as well. I believe the Turbo 2 is slightly shorter. Cant remember I used to have 2 FD trannies and a t2 tranny side by side in the garage. My 8 tranny sucks as well. They are poorly built IMO. Good luck I bet the half shafts and diff are next.
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chickenwafer... +1 for odd ball usernames.
great project btw! |
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I second the T2 trans. Just as strong, and if you get a USDM actually has a decent overdrive for fuel economy (if you care, if not.. go JDM as the gearing on 4th and 5th are much closer).
It would be the same if not an easier swap than the FD trans and parts are just THAT much cheaper for T2 stuff. The RX8 6spd actually isnt a bad trans, it has a weak point (the ball you referred to) which can actually be modified and never cause a problem again. I'm not sure but I'm wondering mazda fixed the issue on the newer trans... I'll have to do some research. It should hold 400lb ft of torque though once modified. |
Yeah the 2009 transmission is much beefier (how much we're still not sure no one is really pushing them yet) but it isn't a bolt-in swap, and since it's so new you can't find any used. Brand new from Mazda it's over $3500 if I recall correctly.
Do you know the modifications to beef up the RX-8 6-speed? Or at the very least a company doing this? I haven't heard of it yet. I also know the shift forks are VERY fragile in this transmission as well. I am actually leaning to the S4 T2 over the FD transmission. If my research serves me right the S5 Turbo and FD transmissions are basically the same thing but with a slightly different 5th gear? But the same case, and gears up to 5th. So after more research this is what I have found: Updates: -The clutch release isn't an issue. The 8 gearbox is a push type clutch and the RX-7 5-speed turbo gearboxes are pull type clutches, but since I'm swapping transmissions none of this matters. I just need the clutch slave cylinder and it's a bolt in. -The S4 transmission can have its linkage cut down and shortened by 4 1/2" so the shifter will line up with the factory RX-8 shifter opening in the console. Very good news and the main reason I am leaning to the S4 Turbo trans -The driveshaft needs to be approx 12.5" longer than the RX-7 driveshaft. -I will need the clutch slave cylinder and the RX-7 Turbo/Automatic transmission starter motor -Custom mounting brackets are required or a custom PPF ($$) But right now I am still thinking I may just throw in another 8 gearbox and play my cards, shift like a grandma and hope all goes well. IF that one goes then I'm definitely going RX-7 transmission. Right now it's more of a timing issues- I would get my 8 back on the road MUCH quicker just throwing in the 8 tranny otherwise with doing the RX-7 5-speed swap it's probably going to take me all winter to do it LOL |
Actually he sold this car a few months ago and got an FD.
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I have never liked RX8's but this was an impressive build!
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Chickenwafer bought an FD? There is no way he could fit into an FD. I won't believe it until I see a picture of him in the car.
How you doing Chickenwafer? It is going to be 112 degrees Monday, be glad you left the desert! :seeya: Lynn |
Actually I'm about the same height as him and I have an FD too lol. He still fits a little tighter in it than I do though haha.
He said he doesn't really get on here much anymore, but I did tell him about this thread so maybe he'll stop by at some point. Last time I saw him he was doing well. I guess the name of this thread should probably change again huh? LOL |
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