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djmtsu 03-21-2010 01:08 PM

Renesis engines, purchasing
 
I am very curious about this....

Why do people sell used renesis engines (condition essentially unknown to the buyer) for $1500 and up?

I can purchase one at the local dealership as a crate reman for right under $2000.

So, what gives?

TitaniumTT 03-21-2010 02:07 PM

I think the used engine is a complete longblock with all the expensive manis, expensive OMPs, WP, TPS, injectors etc etc etc. The crate from the dealership is just the keg correct? If you're doing an engine swap it makes alot more sense to get the used and take a chance becuase all the other parts will cost more than $1500.

djmtsu 03-21-2010 02:22 PM

I guess. But I have seen short blocks for $1500.

A Mazda Reman with warranty for under 2k is awesome.

FerociousP 03-21-2010 07:40 PM

i thought he said $2100??

djmtsu 03-21-2010 07:59 PM

That is retail, he said it could be cheaper.

Even $2100 is a good deal.

ROTORX7Holly 03-23-2010 10:05 PM

Check out www.mazmart.com for renesis rebuilt by Rick Engman. I know a while back he had them for like $2K. If you contact them, ask for Paul. Strange, I cannot find the MazMart vendor here. Where did they go?

1Revvin7 03-26-2010 02:38 PM

Mazda remans have poor rebuild quality, we are rebuilding a couple right now . They didn't even last 40k...

Lastphaseofthis 03-27-2010 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Revvin7 (Post 113778)
Mazda remans have poor rebuild quality, we are rebuilding a couple right now . They didn't even last 40k...

Can you tell what parts were replaced, and what was not? what was the failure mode if you don't mind? water jacket? i've seen one rx-8 that lost compression, but i was never told why, the guy was to busy trying to sell it to me.

1Revvin7 03-27-2010 06:24 PM

The two I have seen lost compression from too much side seal clearance and worn out apex seals. Rotor housings and bearings were shot too. Sideseal clearance was in the .024"+ range. It appears to be they replace just soft and hard seals...

djmtsu 03-31-2010 06:49 AM

I know a guy :D

$1850 plus a refundable $1000 core charge.

FerociousP 03-31-2010 07:43 AM

its more like... he "knows" a guy 8===@ :redface1:

fc3sfreak415 07-27-2011 02:22 PM

If your lookin for an engine give nation wide auto recycling a call. They have 2 engines for sale for $1700 they both are used and under 60k with one year warranty on them and no core charge

NATIONWIDE AUTO RECYCLING
978-534-0477 EXT 305

reddozen 07-28-2011 07:59 AM

I got my short block for $1000 Shipped. I'd much rater go that route and have it rebuilt by someone fairly reputable than to risk anything with a factory Mazda reman. As mentioned, their clearances / tolerances are pretty sloppy. Hand cut side seals FTW.

j9fd3s 07-28-2011 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 113205)
I think the used engine is a complete longblock with all the expensive manis, expensive OMPs, WP, TPS, injectors etc etc etc. The crate from the dealership is just the keg correct? If you're doing an engine swap it makes alot more sense to get the used and take a chance becuase all the other parts will cost more than $1500.

the mazda reman comes with the water pump flywheel and oil pan.

when i was looking at doing an Rx8 swap (vs the PP) in 2006 i priced out all the intakes and fuel real stuff, its like $5k!

stinksause 11-14-2011 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Revvin7 (Post 113778)
Mazda remans have poor rebuild quality, we are rebuilding a couple right now . They didn't even last 40k...

I heard a rumor that mazda uses jails to build their remans


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