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TitaniumTT 11-14-2010 09:55 AM

Cup Holders
 
Brian needs some ideas of some sexy, slim, tender, cup holders to install. I like the idea of the boneyard pop-outs but I'm not about to loose my center vents to accomodate them.... I could build some brackets to still allow airflow through them and this is the top solution right now... just wondering what else hath been done.

JustJeff 11-14-2010 11:44 AM

Hey Brian my father and I both have a little flipdown holder screwed down to the passenger side. Right down where the shifter cover meets the lower dash. I was going to get you a pic, but the camera battery is dead. IIRC we got them out of Victoria British LTD catalogs...when they used to have RX7 catalogs.

Here is just about the same one
http://www.amazon.com/American-Techn.../dp/B000Q86IQQ

I'm not sure about the one I linked but my father and mine work really well except for a couple things. They're not made for "Lake o' Pepsi" large drinks so they won't hold those huge sodas that fast food joints sell. Also they don't hold tall cups/bottles very secure. There have been times I lost mine out of the holder going around turns.

vex 11-14-2010 12:00 PM

Build a single insert/slide piece from aluminum. The housing is spring loaded with a lock lever on the left side. The insert is a sheet of aluminum with two holes cut in it for insertion of the cups. Install unit between radio and vents, or between climate control unit and vents.

Since the insert is made of a single sheet of aluminum the cups will be held by the fact that gravity will pull the tapered cup to be seated snuggly into the holder. However you'll need some cups to see what size will work the best.

JustJeff 11-14-2010 12:49 PM

I've never liked the idea of hanging cups in front of my electronic parts. Granted a spill probably (probably being the keyword) won't result in frying parts, but it will result in a sticky mess to clean up. I don't want to have to pull my console apart to clean soda. If you have a flipdown face on your headunit or one that angles for glare it could really be a PITA to clean all that.

vex 11-14-2010 01:37 PM

If you're spilling soda then you have an issue bigger than attempting to clean it up (thinking sudden stop/accident).

The issue isn't so much that it's going to be difficult to clean up, you'd have that issue regardless of the location of the cup holder, but more of locating them as to minimize intrusion into the operation of the vehicle. I admit the center console is not the ideal location for a cup holder, but then again, neither is behind the individual as it becomes difficult to pick up and drink.

Pete_89T2 11-14-2010 02:20 PM

I have yet to find a decent cup holder that works well in an FC or FB, i.e., that won't spill its load at the first hint of any G forces or a bump in the road, and I haven't been ambitious enough to try fabricating one of my own design.

Best bet is to just drive with your GF, wife, mistress or buddy and let them hold the cups if you're thirsty!

TitaniumTT 11-14-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JustJeff (Post 132288)
Hey Brian my father and I both have a little flipdown holder screwed down to the passenger side. Right down where the shifter cover meets the lower dash. I was going to get you a pic, but the camera battery is dead. IIRC we got them out of Victoria British LTD catalogs...when they used to have RX7 catalogs.

Here is just about the same one
http://www.amazon.com/American-Techn.../dp/B000Q86IQQ

I'm not sure about the one I linked but my father and mine work really well except for a couple things. They're not made for "Lake o' Pepsi" large drinks so they won't hold those huge sodas that fast food joints sell. Also they don't hold tall cups/bottles very secure. There have been times I lost mine out of the holder going around turns.

Thanks Jeff, was thinking about those and they can be had at the chandlery store down the street pretty cheap. The two things that I don't like about them is that they don't go completely away, and they require screwing into the vinyl dash which I can't bring myself to do just yet..... or the door panels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vex (Post 132293)
Build a single insert/slide piece from aluminum. The housing is spring loaded with a lock lever on the left side. The insert is a sheet of aluminum with two holes cut in it for insertion of the cups. Install unit between radio and vents, or between climate control unit and vents.

Since the insert is made of a single sheet of aluminum the cups will be held by the fact that gravity will pull the tapered cup to be seated snuggly into the holder. However you'll need some cups to see what size will work the best.

Sounds sharp and dangerous and RedBulls aren't tapered ;)

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Originally Posted by Pete_89T2 (Post 132304)
I have yet to find a decent cup holder that works well in an FC or FB, i.e., that won't spill its load at the first hint of any G forces or a bump in the road, and I haven't been ambitious enough to try fabricating one of my own design.

I think I'm going to have to hit the boneyard tomorrow and see what I can find. There are a few factory options that are pretty nice.... The pop out ones etc etc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete_89T2 (Post 132304)
Best bet is to just drive with your GF, wife, mistress or buddy and let them hold the cups if you're thirsty!

Two problems with that..... I don't think the GF would want to meet the mistriss and I can't stand either one of them for the amount of time with the proximity that will be required for the rd trip :smilielol5:

vex 11-14-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 132310)
Sounds sharp and dangerous and RedBulls aren't tapered ;)

And here I thought you lived dangerously... my mistake.

It's an easy fix for non-tapered stuff. Put in a collapsible wire underneath the aluminum holders. Or better yet, here's something else you could do for your red bulls.

Turn your center console (the one where your arm rest is) into a redbull fridge. Setup a little fridge unit in there and have it hold your redbulls in sort of an form fit piece. Keeps them ice cold and holds the open ones. Then when you want a drink you flip open the door, drink your chilled redbull and flip it back.

I mean, that's not sharp, dangerous, and ignores the design failing of the Redbull cans.

JustJeff 11-14-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vex (Post 132300)
If you're spilling soda then you have an issue bigger than attempting to clean it up (thinking sudden stop/accident).

The issue isn't so much that it's going to be difficult to clean up, you'd have that issue regardless of the location of the cup holder, but more of locating them as to minimize intrusion into the operation of the vehicle. I admit the center console is not the ideal location for a cup holder, but then again, neither is behind the individual as it becomes difficult to pick up and drink.

It's law of averages that sooner or later the top is gonna come off the fountain drink when you reach for it. You drop it trying to get the cup back in cause all the sudden you have to shift gears for whatever reason.

Or it's bound to happen while you are texting, reading a book, eating your breakfast enroute to work and oh yeah...driving :driving:

Stupidity or clumsiness doesn't have to result in a catastrophic accident. All things being equal, I'd much rather clean my carpet and floormat than my expensive electronics and gauges.

BUT it would be nice to have it both on that console but also out of the way of electronice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete_89T2 (Post 132304)
I have yet to find a decent cup holder that works well in an FC or FB, i.e., that won't spill its load at the first hint of any G forces or a bump in the road, and I haven't been ambitious enough to try fabricating one of my own design.

Best bet is to just drive with your GF, wife, mistress or buddy and let them hold the cups if you're thirsty!

+1 hold the drink AND don't dare touch the stereo unless given specific directions about it :icon_tup:

Cute sidestory. My rule has always been, you don't touch my stereo in my car and I don't touch yours in your car. My last GF didn't own a car :)

JustJeff 11-14-2010 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=TitaniumTT;132310]Thanks Jeff, was thinking about those and they can be had at the chandlery store down the street pretty cheap. The two things that I don't like about them is that they don't go completely away, and they require screwing into the vinyl dash which I can't bring myself to do just yet..... or the door panels.



I think I'm going to have to hit the boneyard tomorrow and see what I can find. There are a few factory options that are pretty nice.... The pop out ones etc etc[QUOTE]

I'm at my folks house for dinner with the family. Once I get home I"ll post up pics of the cupholder location. The ones we have use one screw per corner, but we found that we can hang them lower and use only the top two screws. The bottom of the holder hits the contour of the transmission hump. I suppose it resting on the hump in theory makes it more secure. More importantly it cuts the number of holes in the dash in half.

We've got 2 holder for 3 cars. Dad took the one out of the black ver to use in the red vert. The holes left behind are barely noticeable. They'd be even less noticeable if I filled them with some sort of black putty. I'll get pics of both on and off w/holes.

My brother has some damn sweet cupholders in his Porsche. Push on them and they slide out. While sliding out the fingers on the holder slide apart. Pretty slick setup very similar to what Vex is proposing you make.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vex (Post 132314)
And here I thought you lived dangerously... my mistake.

It's an easy fix for non-tapered stuff. Put in a collapsible wire underneath the aluminum holders. Or better yet, here's something else you could do for your red bulls.

Turn your center console (the one where your arm rest is) into a redbull fridge. Setup a little fridge unit in there and have it hold your redbulls in sort of an form fit piece. Keeps them ice cold and holds the open ones. Then when you want a drink you flip open the door, drink your chilled redbull and flip it back.

I mean, that's not sharp, dangerous, and ignores the design failing of the Redbull cans.

I like where you're going with this!!! Could get you in a Red Bull ad...get your car sponsored. Of course for sponsorship you'd also have to strap a HUGE fake can to the back of your car.

TitaniumTT 11-14-2010 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vex (Post 132314)
And here I thought you lived dangerously... my mistake.

Oh I do.... I do.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by vex (Post 132314)
It's an easy fix for non-tapered stuff. Put in a collapsible wire underneath the aluminum holders. Or better yet, here's something else you could do for your red bulls.

Turn your center console (the one where your arm rest is) into a redbull fridge. Setup a little fridge unit in there and have it hold your redbulls in sort of an form fit piece. Keeps them ice cold and holds the open ones. Then when you want a drink you flip open the door, drink your chilled redbull and flip it back.

I mean, that's not sharp, dangerous, and ignores the design failing of the Redbull cans.

As much as I like the fridge idea, and I have toyed with it.... requires more work than I have time for right now.... as does the intricate fabrication.... as much as I love it...........

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Originally Posted by JustJeff (Post 132323)
My brother has some damn sweet cupholders in his Porsche. Push on them and they slide out. While sliding out the fingers on the holder slide apart. Pretty slick setup very similar to what Vex is proposing you make.

That's what I'm talking about. Mounting something like that somewhere somehow....

VW's and Audi's are similar... gotta love them Germans.... and if anyone can pronounce my last name, they'd love me too :lol:

rxspeed7 11-14-2010 08:50 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Honda-Civic-CRX-...item35ad30c8b5

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JB-La...Q5fAccessories

These look pretty nice but i don't know how they'd interfere with the shift and shifting. They look pretty nice though i need to just order one and find out how they work.

Zack.

TitaniumTT 11-14-2010 09:37 PM

Thought about something like that but I've got my switch panel/MoTeC interface mounted under the stereo. I'd need to ditch all those to fit that in.... which is why I think I'm going to go have a look for some single ones tomorrow and see what I can find.

rxspeed7 11-14-2010 09:50 PM

Gotcha, i forgot you had those there. Shit just be a man and chugg that shit and ditch, don't wanna me messing up the trim with spills and shit.lol(there's my weekly thug sentence)lol. I've always wanted to do something inside the center console, just a little square piece of metal the same size as the inside of the console, then cut a circular hole in it.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...untitled-1.jpg
Zack

My5ABaby 11-15-2010 10:26 AM

Since you can weld, why not have one coming off the passenger seat bracket. You fabricate a metal holder that will sit to the right of the shifter (kinda where the passengers left knee would be) and have an arm extending from the left front seat bracket. I wouldn't think it'd be hard to fabricate as it's just the cupholder part attached to a bent piece of metal.


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