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sv51macross 01-07-2011 11:32 AM

S4 GXL LSD, confirmation
 
May have a lead on a S4 clutchie-LSD. Guy is local, and I want to make sure the pumpkin actually has a LSD inside it.

Question is, I don't know how a clutch-type unit behaves at rest. By turning/holding combinations of the input/output stubs, can I tell if there's a functioning LSD inside?

N.RotaryTech 01-07-2011 12:08 PM

I know that mine has a tag on it, located around the drain plug or fill plug.
Look for that.

sv51macross 01-07-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.RotaryTech (Post 136919)
I know that mine has a tag on it, located around the drain plug or fill plug.
Look for that.

A bit more detail please.

N.RotaryTech 01-07-2011 04:31 PM

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...DSC_0009-3.jpg

sv51macross 01-07-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.RotaryTech (Post 136965)

Good enough for me. Yeah, I remember from my auto classes at CC clutchies take special diff oil.

[EDIT]: Ah, if the tag is missing, is there a mechanical way to tell if it's a LDS without cracking the pumpkin?

RETed 01-08-2011 02:09 AM

Spin one side...
If the other side spins the same way, then there's some kinda locker in it.
If the other side spins the opposite way, it's open diff.

Now, this doesn't confirm if the LSD is in good, working condition...
It could be loose and out-of-spec, which basically means it reacts like an open diff when pushed hard.
There are friction plates that do wear down internally.
High mileage usually means worn LSD...


-Ted

sv51macross 01-08-2011 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RETed (Post 137023)
Spin one side...
If the other side spins the same way, then there's some kinda locker in it.
If the other side spins the opposite way, it's open diff.

Now, this doesn't confirm if the LSD is in good, working condition...
It could be loose and out-of-spec, which basically means it reacts like an open diff when pushed hard.
There are friction plates that do wear down internally.
High mileage usually means worn LSD...


-Ted

So, if I go to the local Mazda dealer, how much will they rape me, er, charge me, for replacement friction discs?

RETed 01-08-2011 05:05 AM

I doubt any Mazda dealer would do the labor for it.

Looking at the Mazdatrix website:
http://www.mazdatrix.com/G8LSD.HTM

It looks like they charge around $350 just for the discs.

Find a good drivetrain shop locally, and they can do the work for you.
Assuming the prices from Mazdatrix, a fully rebuilt diff is going to cost you around $500 - $700 for parts and labor.


-Ted


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