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tweiss3 06-23-2014 06:28 PM

Front wheel hub
 
So my passenger front wheel bearing is shot. It's pitted on the races in the hub, so I ordered a new inner and outer bearing plus the seal. The thing is I can't figure out how to get the old races out. The FSM seems to say you must replace the hub as well, but that just doesn't make sense.

Is there a good way to remove the inner races?

GySgtFrank 06-23-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 284354)
So my passenger front wheel bearing is shot. It's pitted on the races in the hub, so I ordered a new inner and outer bearing plus the seal. The thing is I can't figure out how to get the old races out. The FSM seems to say you must replace the hub as well, but that just doesn't make sense.

Is there a good way to remove the inner races?

You have to grind a couple of small slots on the backside of the hub where the race seats, just enough to get a small punch on the back side of the race. Then, using the punch. work the race out of there. Re-assembly is straightforward, just drive the new races all the way down just like any other wheel bearing replacement.

tweiss3 06-23-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GySgtFrank (Post 284356)
You have to grind a couple of small slots on the backside of the hub where the race seats, just enough to get a small punch on the back side of the race. Then, using the punch. work the race out of there. Re-assembly is straightforward, just drive the new races all the way down just like any other wheel bearing replacement.

So slot the aluminum between the two races, then us a punch? I suppose that makes sense. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.

GySgtFrank 06-23-2014 07:03 PM

Yep. As you found out Mazda meant for the entire hub to be replaced when the bearings went bad. Therefor they left no provision to remove the races. I love the engineering and thought that Mazda put into these cars, but this and a few other things, make me think they spent too much time with the Ford marketing group.

Pete_89T2 06-23-2014 08:52 PM

Looks like you got the answer already, but here's a good FAQ on the procedures with pictures, courtesy of MazdaTrix...

http://www.mazdatrix.com/faq/frontbrg.htm

tweiss3 06-24-2014 06:35 AM

Thanks, that mazdatrix makes me feel better, I was worried i'd make too big of a notch, but they ground that notch pretty large.

I don't understand why the bearings are sold with an inner race if the idea is to replace the entire hub, but I'm glad it's not too bad to figure out.

chibikougan 06-24-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 284366)
Thanks, that mazdatrix makes me feel better, I was worried i'd make too big of a notch, but they ground that notch pretty large.

I don't understand why the bearings are sold with an inner race if the idea is to replace the entire hub, but I'm glad it's not too bad to figure out.


S5s have all sorts of fun must replace items. Engineered for making money.

Turbo II Rotor 06-25-2014 08:56 AM

Got a welder? Throw a bead around the inside of the race. This will shrink the race a little bit and you can usually flip the hub over and bang it on the bench and the race will fall out.

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...bearing-races/

Garfinkles Motor Works 06-25-2014 08:33 PM

I have done the welding method and the grind , hammer and drift method. I like the notch method because once the notch is made it is ready for the next set of bearings .

tweiss3 06-26-2014 05:48 AM

I did the notch method last night. It worked out pretty well, but it definitely took more time than I initially anticipated.

Tanj! 07-09-2014 12:42 PM

Another option is to place the entire hub in the oven at 200*F for 10 to 15 minutes. The aluminum hub expands faster than the steel bearing race. You can then just flip the hub over and give it a good whack with a hammer and piece of wood. The race generally just falls right out. Sometimes a little more persuasion is needed.

My5ABaby 07-10-2014 03:53 PM

I took a torch to the hub and eventually the race just fell out since the hub expanded faster than the race. Similar to above, just more targeted heat.

TitaniumTT 07-10-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 284366)
I don't understand why the bearings are sold with an inner race if the idea is to replace the entire hub, but I'm glad it's not too bad to figure out.

Because bearings are generally generic, so that one bearing could fit a host of other things that have provisions for replacement races.


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