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Originally Posted by iani1.1
yes you both are correct if your talking about road racing, autoX, etc. but the point i was trying to get at is drifting you need stretched tires on a very underpowered vehicle or else its nearly impossible to keep the tires spinning. its the opposite of both your equation. less contact less traction = easier to slide.
also i can care less about "automotive performance" been there done that. it just shows a how big you think your penis is and the only people who understands are usually dudes. sad but true. pretty homo? yes. just accept it.
now, im sorry if you guys took it the wrong way but there's no need to judge people just because you think one thing is idiotic. try drifting an na, youll know what i mean. im straying off the subject so ill just end it here.
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(I'm going to ignore your poor attempt at trying to insult me and address your short sightedness directly.)
You're so tunnel-visioned about hippari stretch tires that you fail to see the big picture.
WE had no problems running proper tire fitments on our FC drift project.
Fronts were 225/50/16 (A032R) on 8" wide rims.
Rears were anything from 205 wide tires on 7" wide wheels to 225 - 245 wide tires on 8" wide wheels.
We had NO problem drifting the FC.
http://fc3spro.com/PROJECTS/SKY/20B/sky20b.html
Vid link is at the bottom.
Underpowered vehicles have no problem sliding, as long as you know what you are doing.
We regularly have a lot of "underpowered" AE86's on the track.
If you knew what you were doing, you use vehicle speed to get the car to go sideways.
It has nothing to do with the tires or the tire set-up.
A GOOD DRIVER can get any underpowered vehicle to slide regardless of the tire combination.
Beginning drifters (LIKE YOU) insist on having a specific tire set-up - poor traction in the back, so you can kick the back out easier.
This just means you don't have the BALLS to go into a corner fast enough to kick the rear out like the real drivers do and rely on poor traction in the rear to get the back end to slide out first.
This means you're relying on the fronts to keep traction - this means you're still a rookie.
Good drifters do 4 WHEEL DRIFTS where all 4 tires are sliding.
A good drifter would insist on good traction (i.e. tires) in all 4 corners to properly drift.
(Why is this point important?)
Because it's the same set-up that grip drivers do...good traction in all 4 corners.
This is not drift versus grip.
This is about you not understanding what you are talking about and insisting you are right.
There are other ways to decrease traction on tires.
One obvious way is to use cheap ass tires.
Yes, hippari stretch is another way.
Yet another way is to change the tire pressures.
Yet another way is to change or disconnect sway bars.
Be careful of what you say, cause you have no idea who you are talking to on the other side of the computer.
You see how ignorant you sound now?
-Ted