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Originally Posted by sen2two
From what everyone is saying... It seems to be that the sensors are the problem, not the actual wideband hardware.
I have the Innovate LM-1, which I only have in the car when I tune it. I also only run pump gas in the car, and a bit of water/meth. Which gives cooler exhaust temps. So the sensor shouldnt really be a problem for me.
Does anyone have a problem with the actual Innovate set-up that dosnt involve the sensor?
Can you upgrade any one of the above listed "better" sensors to the Innovate set-up?
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Yes,
The innovate is a toy > like all the ones in that price bracket especial tech edge crap ! they are always OUT compared to professional meters *you should always expect +-0.2 AFR on average with these*.
I tested all of them not on lab gases out of a bottle but on a real car on common feed to new sensors and the cheaper units always especially at rich mixtures were quite random.
I used to bestow the virtues of Innovate stuff wrote hundreds of posts on them and was the sole Australian dealer, but given what I know now there is no way in hell I would recommend one or their technology which is on sold to people like Helltech. NOR would I ever recommend the techedge rubbish that is made in a house in Canberra/Australia by a failed Electronics guru who is regarded by his peers as a "joke" probably why his meters deliver the same results as their owner.
The moral of AFR Instruments is you get an instrument for instruments money, for Toy money you get a Toy.
Save your pennies and buy a proper meter, this is one of the most critical things you will ever measure on a car period, why trust your reading to toys made in someone house or made with flawed technology when for a little more cash you can use the same Gear HKS technology use or what many Automotive OEM companies use to make real performance cars
The NEKO AF-700 is a great unit, look it up on
www.rhdjapan.com I am the person who made them stock it
its the #1 unit in use in Japan by all top end tuners and development companies, for the cost and what you get its cheap in my books.