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Originally Posted by MacGyver
Stationary and Rotor bearings:
The engine I'm rebuilding has excellent condition stock bearings but I'm unsure how they will hold up in the long run at elevated power levels.
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If there is ever a chance that the bearing is questionable, just buy the RX8 stuff. Cheaper and better than stock replacements.
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Either way I will be using a Racing Beat high pressure regulator
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Just find an FD one
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and machining a groove for an o-ring between the pump body and front iron.
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Where did you get that idea?
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I'll be keeping the stock ball and spring eshaft jet as well.
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Ditch that, get a plug.
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Additionally I (need help with) was thinking RX-8 gears/bearings and Mazdatrix competition rotor bearings
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Just go ahead and get the 8 bearings/stat gears if there is any question.
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along with reaming the oil passages to 3/8". Plan is to keep the redline the same. Thoughts on whether is a worthwhile mod or waste of money?
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I wouldn't w/the stock pump and the stockish system you have planned.
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I'm not sure about Groopy and ALS but Mazda seems fine for your Applications.
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I wouldn't use them for anything other than stock turbo and 250ish HP
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No Apex seal can survive too much ping, Groopy might wrap instead of breaking like Mazda, but the result is the same --- you lose compression and you need a rebuild.
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BULLSHIT. The seals I run survived a 16.9:1 @ 15psi detonation event... basically cruising @ high rpms, high vacuum and punched it. Boost when from 15" to 15 lbs in a split second and the car detonated so hard it nearly knocked teeth out. Pulled over, pulled a datalog, found the problem, fixed the problem, drove another 1000 miles before doing a compression test.... which showed 114all around
Not to mention... I would much rather have a seal warp and loose compression than break and wipe out a rotor, a housing, possibly a plate and possibly a turbo.... so no, the results are not the same
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but if your tuning is safe you don't have to worry too much about that in the first place, all you really need to focus on is the tuning.
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Things go wrong, and they go wrong faster than you can react. I wouldn't use mazda seals for a hi-hp engine even though plenty of people do.
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You can use 13B-MSP Eshaft and Bearings, they're better and cheaper. no modification is necessary. As for Rotor bearings, you don't need the compeition one unless you are going above 8-9K rpm all the time, stock actually works quite well
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This is accurate and what I run in my engine
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for oil pressure, you can just use FD rear and add 2 1/8" shims to the front, then you are set, and much cheaper
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I wouldn't add the shims. I did in mine and ended up taking them out and my oil pressure is still 135-140 at cold start, and 100psi cruising down the highway. It's just too much.
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Originally Posted by infernosg
Good info on the oil pressure regulator - should be cheaper than buying the "upgraded" unit from Racing Beat, etc.
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Indeed
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A note on the RX-8 stationary gears: some modification is required for the rear gear to ensure the oil passage is open and you'll need to use hylomar/silicone to seal the rear gear to the housing as there is no o-ring groove.
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Just make sure that it's all lined up when you test fit the gear/bearing assembly. I use a little grey permatex or "right Stuff" in the corner and that's all you really need.
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