I dunno, I really want to see what my motor will get after the car is done and the rtek is tuned, to give a baseline for Bobby's (nop1stons) itb setup? I'm sure that whatever I get, a proper itb setup, full standalone, porting, and good tuning will make more, and I'm shooting for hopefully 150 whp? Ludwig told me not to set my sights on a number, but I think 150 is safe to hope for with an S5 motor, full exhaust, no emissions and a rtek?