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Old 05-14-2009, 10:49 PM   #12
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Oh my, where to begin.

First, Vex speaks the truth about the cost involved in turbo'ing an N/A motor. Both in the cost, the time, the fab and the pro's/minuses. Just look around, especially on the evil forum at all the little kiddies who slapped a turbo on thier N/A motor, bragged about it and then posted a week later that something went wrong and they're bitching about the rotary, complaining about the cost, the reliabilty etc etc etc. Going fast takes longer and going cheap will cost you more in the long run. These are lessons that I learned about 10 years ago and have seen people repeat countless times.

The big thing to ask yourself is what are your goals for this car. That will dictate which route you want to take.

Are you looking for a modest amount of power? Say 300 to the wheels? Normal rising torque curve? Nothing special under the hood? Don't want to take any chances? Swap in a 13BT, buy a factory new harness, and Rtek, a hybrid turbo and be done with it.

Is your thirst for power a little more? Look towards standalone EMS's (GOOD ones) custom mani's and off the self Garret or Turbonetics turbo's.

Is your thirst for power not that great but your wanting to be a little different from the flock the bigger priority? Do something custom with your N/A block.

Any way you go, you're looking @ a MINUMUM of probably $5-7k. Personally, I have a rather unique project, my goals were different from anyone's that I had seen and thus, my project is differnt from anyone elses. I will tell you though that the complexity of my project has lead me to 27 months of work and counting, and roughly $12k in ELECTRONICS ALONE. Then again I seem to be considered old, grumpy, sinicle and I have an attitude that most don't have - I just don't quit when I have something in my head. Right now I'm taking a little breather from my allnighter to get my car ready for the dyno on Saturday and the Auto-x's on Sunday...... & I have to be @ work ~ 7:30 tomorrow...... but hey, that's me. Most people aren't as stubborn as I am.

Basically you need to decide what you want from the car first and foremost. Like Vex said, maybe you'll dictate your budget, maybe your budget will dictate your project. Once you decide that, something more definate can be planned out.


A note on the twins. Unless you're planning on running them sequentially, there is really no sense in using them in a swap type application. If you're planning on swapping in an REW with an Apex PFC, ok maybe. But my route is certainly not for the faint of heart or the light of wallet, not bragging just saying that there are other ways to make the peak power that I did. Now the low end torque that I'll have should be better than any single out there making it the perfect car for my needs. I made 313 RWHP non-sequentially on wastegate with some creep to 10PSI. Respectable numbers, but those can be beat with a BNR hybrid and ALOT less time and cost. I've been running around for a few days with a VERY crude sequential map and holly mother of rotary does that little HT-12 fucking SPOOL! It's like vac vac vac vac, ok a little throttle holly shit did I just spike 16lbs @ 2500??? Yes, yes I did. The response it ridiculous. I can't wait to see the torque curve when they're dialed in, even if it is on a hurt motor I'll be able to get an idea of what they're capable of.

So, Yes I did enjoy the read Vex, you speak the truth as you and I have both lived this for a while
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