My Racing Brake FD Setup

[cewrx7r1]

Having a fast street car, I wanted to upgrade my brakes without spending more than needed for the application. The brake company is "Racing Brake".
http://www.racingbrake.com/

Front: I opted for their two piece OEM fit rotors. They fit with either of 2 minor mods: use a thin spacer to prevent the rotor from slightly rubbing the caliber during tight turns or lightly grind off the area where it rubs. This is caused by the fact that these rotors are 2mm thicker than stock and also have directional air cooling vanes.

Rear: They have the same type of two piece rotors for the stock rears, but I went with their BBK rears which are almost identical to the 99+ larger rears. It uses the stock caliper but uses a new mounting bracket to move the caliper out further. It also has a two piece larger rotor but stock thickness.

Pads: I tried EBC REDS but they require more brake pedal pressure and still start to get weak at braking speeds over 120. I now have the RB ET500 pads which are modified Hawk compounds similar to HP+. They do not squeal and only lightly dust. They require less brake force than the REDS and work better until they get very hot and then the REDS were slightly better.

From these two, I say the ET500 are the better pads. I do not care for either due to my driving style. I might go back to Hawk HP+ which I ran for years on the stock brakes or try the Axxix ULTs.

My wheels are old Enkei Racing RP01s - 9"x17". 245/40-17 front and 275/40-17 rear Yokohama EVS ES100s.

[Uncle Hungry]

Nice info chuck. I intend to use ebc greens as I have always had good success with them.

[cewrx7r1]

Originally Posted by Uncle Hungry

I intend to use ebc greens as I have always had good success with them.

Back around 1999, EBC greens where the best that Kyle (twokrx7) and I ever used for fast street. Better than the current REDS, better than HP+. Great friction and could handle the heat. Then EBC changed the formula around 2001 and again later on. The company changed owner hands about twice since 1999 if I read documents correctly. Based on the REDs which start to fad over about 120mph, I do not think the current GREENS are better. The old GREENS were.

[circuit theory]

Thanks for the info. I have not had very good luck finding good pads here in Japan. I tried some Project Mu's and they had decent control until hot once they got hot I had to really put some pressure down to get results. I will take a pic of them when tomorrow but to sum it up they literally fried.

Then Last week I tried Sumitomo CSS (dont quote me on that exact model name they might have been CXS or something.) These pads seemed to bite a bit better as well as eat the hell out of my rotors. They almost completely smoothed out the slots in my rotors . For the amount of rotor they ate they were not much of a step up from the Project Mu pads. I think I will be ordering a set of RB that I have heard good things about or just get a set of Hawk HP's.

[Uncle Hungry]

Originally Posted by cewrx7r1

Back around 1999, EBC greens where the best that Kyle (twokrx7) and I ever used for fasy street. Better than the current REDS, better than HP+. Great friction and could handle the heat. Then EBC changed the formula around 2001 and again later on. The company changed owner hands about twice since 1999 if I read documents correctly. Based on the REDs which start to fad over about 120mph, I do not think the current GREENS are better. The old GREENS were.

Well thats good to know because it would be the old greens I have experience with.

[2MCHPWR]

any pics of your setup? you spent $650 for the front rotors? ouch.

http://www.racingbrake.com/RX7_s/3213.htm

Are these your rears for $1000?
http://www.racingbrake.com/RX7_s/3297.htm
It would be cool if they offered the same kit for the fronts.

I would think with a stoptech front only kit for $2000 might be better alternative and way better for open tracking.

I open track with the hawk HP+ and love them. my 2 cents.

[cewrx7r1]

I will be changing to Axxis ULT pads today.

My current RB ET500 pads are not as good as Hawk HP+, and I want to try something new one more time before giving up on anything else other than the Hawks.

[TRISPEEDFD3S]

Yeah, I have the ET500s front and rear, and I'm not happy.

[cewrx7r1]

The Axxis ULT are good but dust more than ET500 or EBC REDS. Still not what I want for
stopping from 140mph (doing 4th gear tuning runs).

I place them better than the REDS but about equal to ET500s.

Just put in HP+ 2 weeks ago. So far up to 100mph are better.
Will test higher speeds when I think they are 100% bedded.
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$1460 was my cost with the RB promotion last year.

[cewrx7r1]

Here are pics.

[SPICcnmFD]

HP+ shouldn't have any fadding problems on the street. I run them and have no problems. I also know a few that track them and love them, but they are on lesser powered cars than the FD. I don't trust them for track purposes but I've never really tried them.

[albertomg]

I've had good results with the HPS on the RB BBK.

[cewrx7r1]

Today I was out testing/logging 16psi of boost with my newly installed/bedded HP+ pads.

As always before, when warmed up they squeel a little under light load. That does not bother me and is a "WARNING/INVITATION" to other cars to see my SERIOUS brake system.

And as always, the pads out performed the others I tried with the new brake system.
Better cold and better hot. HP+ rule the street world!

[TRISPEEDFD3S]

Are your brakes a little more rear biased now since those rears are made for bbks?

[SPICcnmFD]

It's hard to beat Hawk pads for the performance. They are noisy, dusty, and corrosive but they don't have a problem working properly.