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Old 02-18-2011, 03:59 PM   #1
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Widebands

I'm looking into getting a wideband/gauge. The options I've found thus far are:
AEM UEGO - Easy to use but only goes down to 11:1
Innovate LC-1 - Needs calibration often
NGK AFX - No info
PLX - No info
Zeitronix Zt-3 - No info

Any other thoughts? Suggestions?

I found this: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/r...B_Shootout.pdf It's a bit outdated though.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:48 PM   #2
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11:1 really isn't that impressive

Seems like interesting info (if somewhat biased). I have the innovative unit and I have I had no problems so far.

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Old 02-18-2011, 04:52 PM   #3
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The only one worth buying is the Neko AF700

I have it permanent mounted right of the back of my turbo!, not a problem, perfect readings, no BS excuses why it wont work etc etc, ~10,000km strong on the same sensor.

I made www.rhdjapan.com stock this, check them out for pricing etc, it is not cheap, but then again its not a toy or a piece of shit like the rest you short listed.

ALL THE BEST japan tuning GIANTS use Neko Corp AF instruments.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:52 PM   #4
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The swing dial on the out side may say 11 but the screen itself goes down to 10:1
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Old 02-18-2011, 05:34 PM   #5
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I use the Innovate LC-1 with no problems so far. I'm only mildly modified, not doing much logging, and use it as an indicator and a reference for not blowing the motor. If you aren't making big power and on a budget then you can get by with a "toy" O2 sensor that will be more than accurate enough for normal street use.
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Old 02-18-2011, 06:06 PM   #6
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i have been using for 3 year no problem and same 02 sensor http://www.fuelairspark.com/Products...er/default.asp and if you want you can run two 02 sensors just incase one goes bad.

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There's also Prosports wideband.
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LC1 is the standard it seems. However if I bought again, it would be the same Rice suggested.
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Will be moving this to Rotary Tech soon...
I believe this is a more appropriate section.
Not quite FC specific...


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LC1 is the standard it seems. However if I bought again, it would be the same Rice suggested.
Just so you know Rice only referenced a Sensor (a sensor which costs close to $700.00 when last checked). You would still need a controller.
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Just so you know Rice only referenced a Sensor (a sensor which costs close to $700.00 when last checked). You would still need a controller.
A Neko AF700 is a complete unit, controller, display module, and individually chipped lab grade NTK sensor.

You can buy the sensor on its own, but you need to buy the AF700 unit as you cant use the sensor on its own cause it has its own EPROM chip you need to fit into the controller which is the calibration for the sensor (each and every one is tailor made).

Autronic sell a "lab grade" NTK sensor (though not chipped like the Neko) it's just a higher grade than the std L1H1 and is about $700 Au, this is the same as Motec will supply for a PLM if you get the shits with the inaccuracy and random failures of the Bosch LSU types they come with std.

Hope this clears it up?
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I have used the PLX with no problems. The OLED display and daisy chain option for other gauges such as Oil Pressure, Temp, and Coolant Temp etc. Very neat options anyway.
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I have used a PLX in the same location for the last 20K miles with no problem what so ever.
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A Neko AF700 is a complete unit, controller, display module, and individually chipped lab grade NTK sensor.

You can buy the sensor on its own, but you need to buy the AF700 unit as you cant use the sensor on its own cause it has its own EPROM chip you need to fit into the controller which is the calibration for the sensor (each and every one is tailor made).

Autronic sell a "lab grade" NTK sensor (though not chipped like the Neko) it's just a higher grade than the std L1H1 and is about $700 Au, this is the same as Motec will supply for a PLM if you get the shits with the inaccuracy and random failures of the Bosch LSU types they come with std.

Hope this clears it up?
It does. I didn't see the controller, display, or anything else listed with it at the site you mentioned. Only sensor. Do you have any of the operating ranges it can sustain? Temperature, fuels, etc, etc.
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