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Budget 12A SP build
I'm working on building up an aggressive street ported 12a to replace my
current stock port. The current engine is very strong and still has a lot of life left in it and I intend to use it in another project. What I have are 2 engines I've purchased over the past 2 years. The first is a 12a that was rebuilt with a full Atkins Kit C for 75 bucks. This engine died swallowing a bolt. You can actually see the bolt threads on the exhaust port as it exited. Very entertaining, I'll get pics for you later. Anyway, for the money and if it had been built with a full Atkins kit C then its well worth it. The second engine is a original 12a that was just plain worn out and had little compression in the rear rotor. We will call the first engine A and the second B. Engine A I purchased for $75.00 and engine B I got for $50.00. Since this is a budget build my goal is to do a SP 12A for just a few hundred. So far I've got $125.00 into it. I expect a soft seal kit to be about $120.00 and then I may need to get few hard seals here and there. For porting I have some folks I can borrow or make templates from. Might get this done for less than $300.00, actually I have to because otherwise my wife will notice ![]() So the the A engine looks like it really has all the new stuff from an Atkins kit C. The apex seals are all like new as are most of the side seals. I'm still disassembling it but I have to think I can save some coin reusing a bunch of this stuff. The rear rotor is toast as it got beat pretty badly as it moved that bolt thru its rotation. When I got the engine the rear rotor was full of coolant. I flushed it with oil and wd40 and spun it with a my impact when I first got it to flush it all out. Surprisingly the rear housing has no big gouges or scores in it. I have to clean it up and measure it to make sure its good still but it looks pretty good. The front housing and rotor are in great shape. Reusable for sure. Too bad the rear rotor is trash because I think this is an 83 rotating assembly. The B engine is beat. All the seals are I'm sure out of spec and all the springs are pretty beat as well. The good news is that its an 80 12a. I like this because I want to use the side plates. Also the rotating assembly is in good shape. The bearings are worn but just showing a lot of copper, no scratches or weird wear marks on the eshaft. So my plan is to use the rotating assembly from the B engine along with its side plates and use the housings from the A engine as they have no flaking. So heres some of my questions. I will be measuring all clearances and so forth to make sure any reused pieces are in spec. I would like to try to reuse as much of the hard seals from the A engine as possible because that engine really wasn't run enough to even break in the engine. It sucked down a bolt and blew its coolant seal shortly after being installed. 1. Can I reuse the apex seals given they meet spec? 2. Should I reuse springs? They all seem like new. 3. Most of the side seals came out intact. Use em? 4. The oil control rings on the rotors came out with no problem. Reuse? 5. The corner seals are mostly good. Reuse? 6. Can I pull the bearings from the A rotors and reuse them? They look brand new, no copper at all! 7. Where the bolt went thru the exhaust port theres a gouge. I'll have to get a picture up of that but I'm thinking the street port of the exhaust may take care of it. I will of course get a complete soft seal rebuild kit for the rebuild. I know this thread is useless without pics. I'll get some I promise. I have to clean things up this weekend and then take the pics.
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1980 GS stockport, Fat Nikki, RB Dual Facetfuel pumps, Holley regulator, RB Street port exhaust, 2GDFIS, MR2 MK I electric fans, 2G strut bar, relayed fans, lights and fuel pump, LEDs Project Fat Nikki Budget 12A rebuild Video setup < $30.00 Last edited by t_g_farrell; 12-18-2010 at 10:10 AM. |
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