Roller Rotary - Page 2

Judge Ito · 01-12-2011, 05:47 AM

on my own personal 13B I tried roller bearings on the front and rear stationary gears over 6 years ago. there is pros and cons..

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-12-2011, 09:21 AM

Still running? Die a painful catostraphic death? Pics? Care to share more of the first hand experience?

FC Zach · 01-12-2011, 11:29 AM

I'm curious as well.

vex · 01-12-2011, 11:37 AM

Judge Ito is such a tease

. Count me in on wanting to see the aftermath of the roller bearings/engine.

2gslse · 01-12-2011, 04:08 PM

Pics or it didn't happen!!!

sickofpistons · 01-12-2011, 10:11 PM

I found this information if any dedicated rotary fan is interested.....check it out!

http://www.precisionenginetech.com/t...edle-bearings/

http://www.southshorebearing.com/bearings.htm

http://www.daltonbearing.com/iko/iko...-bearings.aspx

http://www.directindustry.com/indust...ing-60788.html

Has anyone ever had a radial trust bearing fail in your engine? There are to many bearing designs, so there has to be a better alternative that will reduce friction and increase HP! Im only tryin to contribute to the forums knowledge and FLOW of IDEAS.

My5ABaby · 01-12-2011, 10:37 PM

If they're better, why wouldn't Mazda use them?

vex · 01-12-2011, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My5ABaby

If they're better, why wouldn't Mazda use them?

Price.

sickofpistons · 01-12-2011, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My5ABaby

If they're better, why wouldn't Mazda use them?

Faster production....? Lower costs, and more money in there pockets... i geuss. Lol wouldnt you think so?

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-12-2011, 10:49 PM

Longer service life and quieter too

sickofpistons · 01-14-2011, 09:58 PM

Well i found a donor car NA 88 I think it has a blown coolant seal. But anyway im going to try and cheap bastard rebuild, lmao with different bearings and see what happens. Im fasinated with rotaries and would love to contribute to any design or improvement. If anyone needs any designs of parts im proficient with AUTOCADD, so hit me up!

\,,/_ _\,,/ GIGADY

NoDOHC · 01-14-2011, 10:46 PM

Hey, you can't argue with that - does the ideation and the testing.

Good luck with the build!

(Ideally you could dyno it with journal bearings and roller bearings).

sickofpistons · 01-14-2011, 10:49 PM

Thanks for that, what would a 13b na basic bone-stock have with HP just to compare after this Ideation and testing?

vex · 01-25-2011, 11:57 AM

Depends on a lot of factors. Port size, geometry, compression, measuring location, flywheel weights, etc, etc, etc.

NoDOHC · 01-25-2011, 11:01 PM

My S4 NA stock ECU with 7 degree advanced timing and 4 clicks lean on the AFM made 138 WHp per my G-Tech (which I have found to be pretty accurate).

I think (although I didn't copy the run to excel - so it's just from memory) that the S4 NA with a manual transmission did about 118 WHp with stock timing and stock AFR.

My S5 Automatic with stock timing and stock AFR (can't adjust S5) runs 102 WHp per the G-Tech. Made 120 WHp with 7 degree advanced timing.

01-12-2011, 09:21 AM	#17
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01-12-2011, 11:29 AM	#18
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 20	I'm curious as well. __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

01-12-2011, 11:37 AM	#19
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 20	Judge Ito is such a tease . Count me in on wanting to see the aftermath of the roller bearings/engine. __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

01-12-2011, 04:08 PM	#20
2gslse Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: front royal va Posts: 440 Rep Power: 18	Pics or it didn't happen!!! __________________ ____________________________________________ 1976 Cosmo needing lots of work 1993 Rx-7 410 RWHP single turbo toy 1985 Rx-7 toy/project car 411HP stoplight terror 2001 Dodge ram 4wd.parts hauler 2016 Ram 2500 cause its a hemi 2006 VW TDI commuter __________________________________________ I guarantee there's a pregnant redneck teenager somewhere in a shitty trailer park that thinks "Ebola would be a lovely name for their child"...

01-12-2011, 10:11 PM	#21
sickofpistons Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Jackson, TN Posts: 72 Rep Power: 0	I found this information if any dedicated rotary fan is interested.....check it out! http://www.precisionenginetech.com/t...edle-bearings/ http://www.southshorebearing.com/bearings.htm http://www.daltonbearing.com/iko/iko...-bearings.aspx http://www.directindustry.com/indust...ing-60788.html Has anyone ever had a radial trust bearing fail in your engine? There are to many bearing designs, so there has to be a better alternative that will reduce friction and increase HP! Im only tryin to contribute to the forums knowledge and FLOW of IDEAS. Last edited by sickofpistons; 01-12-2011 at 10:16 PM.

01-12-2011, 05:47 AM	#16
Judge Ito Porting Master Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Jersey, USA Posts: 154 Rep Power: 17	on my own personal 13B I tried roller bearings on the front and rear stationary gears over 6 years ago. there is pros and cons..

01-12-2011, 10:37 PM	#22
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01-12-2011, 10:49 PM	#25
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Longer service life and quieter too __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

01-14-2011, 09:58 PM	#26
sickofpistons Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Jackson, TN Posts: 72 Rep Power: 0	Well i found a donor car NA 88 I think it has a blown coolant seal. But anyway im going to try and cheap bastard rebuild, lmao with different bearings and see what happens. Im fasinated with rotaries and would love to contribute to any design or improvement. If anyone needs any designs of parts im proficient with AUTOCADD, so hit me up! \,,/_ _\,,/ GIGADY

01-14-2011, 10:46 PM	#27
NoDOHC The quest for more torque Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sheboygan, Wisconsin Posts: 855 Rep Power: 17	Hey, you can't argue with that - does the ideation and the testing. Good luck with the build! (Ideally you could dyno it with journal bearings and roller bearings). __________________ 1986 GXL ('87 4-port NA - Haltech E8, LS2 Coils. Defined Autoworks Headers, Dual 2.5" Exhaust (Dual Superflow, dBX mufflers) 1991 Coupe (KYB AGX Shocks, Eibach lowering springs, RB exhaust, Stock and Automatic)

01-14-2011, 10:49 PM	#28
sickofpistons Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Jackson, TN Posts: 72 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for that, what would a 13b na basic bone-stock have with HP just to compare after this Ideation and testing?

01-25-2011, 11:57 AM	#29
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 20	Depends on a lot of factors. Port size, geometry, compression, measuring location, flywheel weights, etc, etc, etc. __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

01-25-2011, 11:01 PM	#30
NoDOHC The quest for more torque Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sheboygan, Wisconsin Posts: 855 Rep Power: 17	My S4 NA stock ECU with 7 degree advanced timing and 4 clicks lean on the AFM made 138 WHp per my G-Tech (which I have found to be pretty accurate). I think (although I didn't copy the run to excel - so it's just from memory) that the S4 NA with a manual transmission did about 118 WHp with stock timing and stock AFR. My S5 Automatic with stock timing and stock AFR (can't adjust S5) runs 102 WHp per the G-Tech. Made 120 WHp with 7 degree advanced timing. __________________ 1986 GXL ('87 4-port NA - Haltech E8, LS2 Coils. Defined Autoworks Headers, Dual 2.5" Exhaust (Dual Superflow, dBX mufflers) 1991 Coupe (KYB AGX Shocks, Eibach lowering springs, RB exhaust, Stock and Automatic)

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