Crimping vs. Soldering - Page 5

FerociousP · 02-11-2011, 12:33 PM

I'm at work so I'm not clicking on that link

My5ABaby · 02-11-2011, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FerociousP

I'm at work so I'm not clicking on that link

Surprisingly it's actually a safe link. However, it's a terrible name for a company.

FerociousP · 02-11-2011, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My5ABaby

Surprisingly it's actually a safe link. However, it's a terrible name for a company.

or is it?

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-11-2011, 02:46 PM

We sub contract out to a REALLY heavy, really unkempt guy who calls his company
Fiberglass
And
Repair
Technology

vex · 02-24-2011, 12:15 PM

So back on topic: When wiring in multiple coil/igniter's for the ignition system what is the standard practice to wire in the ECU 12V lead?

Should one use a Junction or power distribution block to split the lead into 4 or more other coils, or should one use multiple op-amp's and solder them in?

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-24-2011, 03:35 PM

How is an old, fat, unshaven, irregular showerer who calls his company FART not on topic?

Here's what I do.... I use the B/Y wire from the main fuse block, EGI fuse I BELIEVE as the turn on for the relay thaty powers the ECU.... It's also used as the turn on for the radio, the GPS, Sirius etc etc etc etc... Which ever ciruit you use, it needs to be hot when cranking. Wire the relay directly to the bat through a breaker/fuse.

For the ignition system, injectors, fuel pump etc, I use the Fuel Pump Relay option in the Motec. It's adjustable for time on, delay, whatever. This output triggers the relays that turn on power for the injectors, ignition, solenoids, etc. Each has their own fuse and relay.

vex · 02-24-2011, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

How is an old, fat, unshaven, irregular showerer who calls his company FART not on topic?

Here's what I do.... I use the B/Y wire from the main fuse block, EGI fuse I BELIEVE as the turn on for the relay thaty powers the ECU.... It's also used as the turn on for the radio, the GPS, Sirius etc etc etc etc... Which ever ciruit you use, it needs to be hot when cranking. Wire the relay directly to the bat through a breaker/fuse.

For the ignition system, injectors, fuel pump etc, I use the Fuel Pump Relay option in the Motec. It's adjustable for time on, delay, whatever. This output triggers the relays that turn on power for the injectors, ignition, solenoids, etc. Each has their own fuse and relay.

lol, you didn't answer the question though. I have 4 coils but only 1 12V wire. Should I use op-amp circuits to ensure each of the 4 wires coming from the op-amp have the same current and voltage to the coils, or should I just use a junction box which ensures equal voltage but current is different? (It's on topic because Op-Amp I would solder in the wires, junction is a 'crimp')

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-24-2011, 07:28 PM

Stepdown buttconnectors... one 12ish gaughe wire goes in, 4 18 ga wires come out. Crimp and you're done homer.

vex · 02-25-2011, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Stepdown buttconnectors... one 12ish gaughe wire goes in, 4 18 ga wires come out. Crimp and you're done homer.

If crimping is acceptable then, I might purchase a weather pack plug. Wire in the ECU lead to the plug and wire in the coils to the other side of the plug giving me a one point disconnect to the coils for both easy inspection and removal.

I'll post my plan in better detail in my ShowOff Thread.

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-25-2011, 01:20 PM

I wouldn't use weatherpack... personal preference is for metripack. In the case of anything fuel or ignition related though, I always use Deutsch connectors though.

vex · 02-25-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

I wouldn't use weatherpack... personal preference is for metripack. In the case of anything fuel or ignition related though, I always use Deutsch connectors though.

Is there a particular reason why one plug is better applied than another?

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-25-2011, 02:26 PM

Weatherpack is bigger and bulkier but they can take more Amps.
Metrpack is smaller, takes less amps buit I like thier pins more.
Deutsch has the best pins, best sealing, and as a bonus you can get them with the extended lip on the back and get some 4:1 heatshrink and have a totally sealed connector.

Amps kinda vary with all of them as you can get a bigger series Metripack to handle more amps.

But, there is nothing on an engine that requires the 25A that the weatherpacks allow.

vex · 02-25-2011, 04:16 PM

https://www.wirecare.com/deutschdt.a...&theSeries=DTM

This makes ordering the plugs easy-peasy.

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-25-2011, 04:22 PM

Cool.... I go to Batts Racing... I'll compare prices later..

the spyder · 02-27-2011, 12:15 AM

Where do you guys order your wire from?
I placed a huge order with Polar Wire, which is a machine service/arctic rated wire and crimps. I wanted to try it out after my brother re-wired his motorcycle with it and has been incredibly happy. Its 1/2 the price of TXL rated wire I can find through google, and offers very similar qualities. Same goes for the copper tinned crimps.

I also just bought one of the ebay $70 480 piece 3m heatshrink connector sets. Cant wait to get it in.

02-11-2011, 12:33 PM	#61
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02-11-2011, 02:46 PM	#64
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02-24-2011, 12:15 PM	#65
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 20	So back on topic: When wiring in multiple coil/igniter's for the ignition system what is the standard practice to wire in the ECU 12V lead? Should one use a Junction or power distribution block to split the lead into 4 or more other coils, or should one use multiple op-amp's and solder them in? __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

02-24-2011, 03:35 PM	#66
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	How is an old, fat, unshaven, irregular showerer who calls his company FART not on topic? Here's what I do.... I use the B/Y wire from the main fuse block, EGI fuse I BELIEVE as the turn on for the relay thaty powers the ECU.... It's also used as the turn on for the radio, the GPS, Sirius etc etc etc etc... Which ever ciruit you use, it needs to be hot when cranking. Wire the relay directly to the bat through a breaker/fuse. For the ignition system, injectors, fuel pump etc, I use the Fuel Pump Relay option in the Motec. It's adjustable for time on, delay, whatever. This output triggers the relays that turn on power for the injectors, ignition, solenoids, etc. Each has their own fuse and relay. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

02-24-2011, 07:28 PM	#68
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Stepdown buttconnectors... one 12ish gaughe wire goes in, 4 18 ga wires come out. Crimp and you're done homer. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

02-25-2011, 01:20 PM	#70
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	I wouldn't use weatherpack... personal preference is for metripack. In the case of anything fuel or ignition related though, I always use Deutsch connectors though. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

02-25-2011, 02:26 PM	#72
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Weatherpack is bigger and bulkier but they can take more Amps. Metrpack is smaller, takes less amps buit I like thier pins more. Deutsch has the best pins, best sealing, and as a bonus you can get them with the extended lip on the back and get some 4:1 heatshrink and have a totally sealed connector. Amps kinda vary with all of them as you can get a bigger series Metripack to handle more amps. But, there is nothing on an engine that requires the 25A that the weatherpacks allow. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

02-25-2011, 04:16 PM	#73
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 20	https://www.wirecare.com/deutschdt.a...&theSeries=DTM This makes ordering the plugs easy-peasy. __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

02-25-2011, 04:22 PM	#74
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Cool.... I go to Batts Racing... I'll compare prices later.. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

02-27-2011, 12:15 AM	#75
the spyder Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Where do you guys order your wire from? I placed a huge order with Polar Wire, which is a machine service/arctic rated wire and crimps. I wanted to try it out after my brother re-wired his motorcycle with it and has been incredibly happy. Its 1/2 the price of TXL rated wire I can find through google, and offers very similar qualities. Same goes for the copper tinned crimps. I also just bought one of the ebay $70 480 piece 3m heatshrink connector sets. Cant wait to get it in.

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