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Old 03-15-2011, 08:00 AM   #1
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Linear actuators generally require multiple outputs, I wouldn't waste them on an ECU even if the ECU had the capability, which I've never seen one have. The Rostra unit looks like it's totally self-contained, so why mess with it? Give it power, gnd, and a signal and it should be ready to roll.

I know you'll be running a non-stock tb, but wouldn't it be easier to adapt the cable to the tb than go through all the hassles involved with making electronics work together? Ideally the cable would be shorter, and all you'd need is a swedge in the proper spot and you're good to go.... no?
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:02 AM   #2
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Yea, I wouldn't fuck with the stock and trying to hack it together to work with the ecu. Keep it seperate, keep it clean, and it should work better. Their kits are very well put together from what I saw.
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Eh, it's a long ways off yet. I have other, more important things to deal with before I even get to that step (I've put in a request for Haltech to be able to use the stepper motor function as a cruise control, I don't know how many inputs it will take to use the stock control).
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Stock cruise control is a seperate unit. Feed it a speed or RPM signal and it should work like stock.

Can Haltech even do a DBW?
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The stock cruise control unit I had ran off vacuum and input from a switch (I don't even think it ran through a computer, but if it did, I doubt it would be good enough now).

I don't know what DBW is. The Haltech has built in stepper motor control (something I have no need of right now, but can be used later for closed loop control of variable length runners or cruise control if they implement the feature)
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:54 AM   #6
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DBW = Drive By Wire
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No. They do not have DBW (yet). Though I imagine it's would not be that hard to implement in the first place. It would be nothing more than accepting an input from a potentiometer and then outputting that input to a stepper motor (it would also eliminate a TPS).
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Not entirely. The DBW system needs feedback. It can't assume that it knows where the throttles at based on where the stepper motor SHOULD be. Think Prius runaways. So there is the stepper motor and then a seperate integrated TPS on most DBW systems.

The input is just a potentimeter though.

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Not entirely. The DBW system needs feedback. It can't assume that it knows where the throttles at based on where the stepper motor SHOULD be. Think Prius runaways. So there is the stepper motor and then a seperate integrated TPS on most DBW systems.

The input is just a potentimeter though.

Once again MoTeC > Haltech
You only need an input if you want to run it in a closed loop function. You could easily setup similarly to how the stock stepper motors worked (did a full sweep to minimum on start up). So unless someone stuck something in there to keep it from hitting minimum first it should be fine.

As it stands right now; the stepper motor control of the Haltech can run Oil Pumps (Which can also be used for intake manifold runner length alteration), and ICV's.
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Wierd shit man.... mine is the "SE" as well... I had the 14" phonedials, sunroof, and I got me some bins too..... wierd. Mine is also an '88, so it's not some super early production like it sounds like you two got. Badass though... rotary history right there
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Sometimes I wish I hadn't sold it since it was light it would have made a great car to smash cones with or a real good car to hotrod the body was straight as an arrow and only needed paint it was fading artic silver (yea yea... I know just like you and bill) damn ... thinking about it that was 13 years ago. Damn I'm getting old.
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Brian,
I would have to say your the coolest person I have not had the chance to meet! See over here in VA I catch the slack from Bill and his 10 year project and MC with his crazy ass toys..but you my friend make me feel when you and MC give him a hell!! I hope that I will get to see your sweet ass FC in person soon..
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I hope that I will get to see your sweet ass soon..
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Dude thats dirty!! thats all I have to say about that
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Dude thats dirty!! thats all I have to say about that
You like it DIRTY???
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