Diary of a Madman; TitaniumTT's see you @ DGRRXI RE-REbuild

[WE3RX7]

Originally Posted by tweiss3

Corrected for truth

nice..

Side note, noticed your from Akron, sorry, lol... most my family lives in/around Wadsworth/Hudson so I go through Akron fairly often. Hope your FC is not an original OH car....

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by 2gslse

Sometimes I wish I hadn't sold it since it was light it would have made a great car to smash cones with or a real good car to hotrod the body was straight as an arrow and only needed paint it was fading artic silver (yea yea... I know just like you and bill) damn ... thinking about it that was 13 years ago. Damn I'm getting old.

Of course you wish that..... who in their right mind would sell an FC???!?!?!!??

Originally Posted by one320fc

Brian,
I would have to say your the coolest person I have not had the chance to meet! See over here in VA I catch the slack from Bill and his 10 year project and MC with his crazy ass toys..but you my friend make me feel when you and MC give him a hell!! I hope that I will get to see your sweet ass FC in person soon..

I dunno about that but thanks man, I appreciate it. Bill does give it back as good as he takes it though, I do have to say that.... and after the Deals he's gonna get a lot more

You coming to Deals? 'Cuz I will definately be there.... I think tomorrow I may try and go for the record, 53 hrs Get ahead of the curve before she goes down for 2 weeks.

Originally Posted by tweiss3

Corrected for truth

You're a twisted individual.... I like it

[one320fc]

[QUOTE=TitaniumTT;143615]Of course you wish that..... who in their right mind would sell an FC???!?!?!!??



I dunno about that but thanks man, I appreciate it. Bill does give it back as good as he takes it though, I do have to say that.... and after the Deals he's gonna get a lot more

You coming to Deals? 'Cuz I will definately be there.... I think tomorrow I may try and go for the record, 53 hrs Get ahead of the curve before she goes down for 2 weeks.


I can't my bitch of an ex-wife is taking me back to court to take the kids from me..Figured she would learn after the first two attempts didnt work so paying for lawyer, new house, and putting what little money I have into the LE. I will just have to settle for DGRR 2012!

[My5ABaby]

They also had carpet where there was only 1 bin. I found that really really weird.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by one320fc

Dude thats dirty!! thats all I have to say about that

Originally Posted by 2gslse

You like it DIRTY???

We own rotaries, we all like it dirty, filthy, noxious, oily... yeah... bring it on!!!

Originally Posted by My5ABaby

They also had carpet where there was only 1 bin. I found that really really weird.

Say whhhaaaaaa????? Pics?

[My5ABaby]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Say whhhaaaaaa????? Pics?

Wish I had some. I had the carpet from a couple parts cars in my parents basement until it flooded so they're long gone. It was from an 86, I think base model.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by tweiss3

My magnaflow stainless downpipe discolored quickly, which makes me kinda not happy. Also, i've managed to burn up copper gaskets on the exaust flanges, kinda thinking of going vband to eliminate leaks.

It's stainless, it happens, polish it out?

Originally Posted by helghast7

Lmfao!!! Nice

Yes I'll probably pick one up asap, before the one I have no gets any worse, right now it's a tolerable drone, turn up the music and it cancels out

Big stereo's have thier place, that's for sure/

Originally Posted by helghast7

When are you going to Cali exactly? Tonight and tomorrow night I'm using a's bike/locate switches time with a side portion of gym lol, and Friday I have a hot date with my lady friend.....which btw likes the ol girl... +1!

If I find everything and ur still here on Saturday I can stop over

I will be here saturday with the excpetion of between ~2-4 and I've got to go through all my paperwork and setup my payments for while I'm gone. It is official though, I'm leaving for cali on Sunday, and yes that is a monster +1

Originally Posted by My5ABaby

Wish I had some. I had the carpet from a couple parts cars in my parents basement until it flooded so they're long gone. It was from an 86, I think base model.

That's pretty badass, learn something new everyday.

[helghast7]

muhuhahahahahaha

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by vex

You only need an input if you want to run it in a closed loop function. You could easily setup similarly to how the stock stepper motors worked (did a full sweep to minimum on start up). So unless someone stuck something in there to keep it from hitting minimum first it should be fine.

As it stands right now; the stepper motor control of the Haltech can run Oil Pumps (Which can also be used for intake manifold runner length alteration), and ICV's.

From what I understand from the MoTeC notes and data sheets, the Renni OMP is a non feedback OMP and requires a different ECU option. Anything 13B uses the feedback type OMP and that's a basic stepper motor option. The 13B electric OMP is a feedback type stepper, that's how, from what I understand, all the DBW's work, you need redundacy damnit

Originally Posted by WE3RX7

nice..

Side note, noticed your from Akron, sorry, lol... most my family lives in/around Wadsworth/Hudson so I go through Akron fairly often. Hope your FC is not an original OH car....

Pssssshhhhh, my FC was originally a CT/VT car! And we all saw the holes in that chassis

Originally Posted by helghast7

muhuhahahahahaha

Sexy..... I need my Stage 3's here, noaw damnit!!!!

[vex]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

From what I understand from the MoTeC notes and data sheets, the Renni OMP is a non feedback OMP and requires a different ECU option. Anything 13B uses the feedback type OMP and that's a basic stepper motor option. The 13B electric OMP is a feedback type stepper, that's how, from what I understand, all the DBW's work, you need redundacy damnit

For the OMP you do need an input signal for position to have it work, however on the Haltech when running an ICV, it does not require the use of another input (as other sensors dictate the need and what not of the valve)--thus it stands to reason that if you can find a means of using the stepper motor without the extra need of an input you could mimic the same stepper motor controls with a predetermined startup routine.

(I was referencing the AAS startup routine in the original post)

[RETed]

Originally Posted by vex

For the OMP you do need an input signal for position to have it work, however on the Haltech when running an ICV, it does not require the use of another input (as other sensors dictate the need and what not of the valve)--thus it stands to reason that if you can find a means of using the stepper motor without the extra need of an input you could mimic the same stepper motor controls with a predetermined startup routine.

Doesn't that get kinda dangerous?

I haven't researched this in detail, so there are a few assumptions...

I know it's a 4-position valve, so it's a 4-pole stepper motor.
Does it have limiters on min (1) and max (4)?
If it has limiters, then it's a little bit safer...
If it doesn't, then you can easily jump from min to max with one errant signal.

There has to be a reason why Mazda went with a feedback signal system.

You would think that the OMP system is important enough to have this feedback system functional.
It does throw a nasty error (which goes into limp-home mode) when triggered.


-Ted

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by RETed

Doesn't that get kinda dangerous?

I haven't researched this in detail, so there are a few assumptions...

I know it's a 4-position valve, so it's a 4-pole stepper motor.
Does it have limiters on min (1) and max (4)?
If it has limiters, then it's a little bit safer...
If it doesn't, then you can easily jump from min to max with one errant signal.

There has to be a reason why Mazda went with a feedback signal system.

You would think that the OMP system is important enough to have this feedback system functional.
It does throw a nasty error (which goes into limp-home mode) when triggered.


-Ted

From my understanding, that's EXACTELY why the DBW systems have the safety of a redundant TPS in there... to prohibit thing like that from happening.

Also, from my understanding the OMP on the Renni doesn't have a feedback, while the S5+ units do, again, for that reason of it being rather important. Not quite sure why Mazda changed it for the Renni, but I'm sure they have some type of safety involved with it... I agree with ya, it would be foolish not to,

[helghast7]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Sexy..... I need my Stage 3's here, noaw damnit!!!!

well you will definetly be done before me when it comes to that type of upgrade, i keep getting hit with these large bills, i need to get more stabilized again before i can really start buying stuff, i have a feeling my diff is going to sit at daves at least a month before i can go get it

as for the switches, thats next on my todo list, first i need to finish buttoning up this bike so i can deliver it already, once thats done im gonna dive into the basement and locate them and bring the cup holder idea for you at the same time

btw, i just remembered, whats a good company to get a resonator from because i blew out the one we welded in, so that rules out magnaflow and obx, i was thinking borla but there just so pricey im not sure its worth it

i was also thinking about a straight pipe because i dont care how loud the car is, as long as it doesnt resonate inside...bbbbuuuutttt rotaries ive heard without some sort of resonator tend to have a very metallic hollow twang to them, whereas im more fond of my deeper roar...idk

[muibubbles]

your thread has so much writing.... i wish there were more pictures =(

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by vex

For the OMP you do need an input signal for position to have it work, however on the Haltech when running an ICV, it does not require the use of another input (as other sensors dictate the need and what not of the valve)--thus it stands to reason that if you can find a means of using the stepper motor without the extra need of an input you could mimic the same stepper motor controls with a predetermined startup routine.

(I was referencing the AAS startup routine in the original post)

The renni OMP, from what I understand is not a feedback unit, but all the S5+ OMP's are feedback, as are every DBW that I know of. Redundancy on throttle would be a good thing.

Originally Posted by one320fc

I can't my bitch of an ex-wife is taking me back to court to take the kids from me..Figured she would learn after the first two attempts didnt work so paying for lawyer, new house, and putting what little money I have into the LE. I will just have to settle for DGRR 2012!

That sucks man, sorry to hear it. If you can swing the time off.... enough people will probably front you everything but the reg fee..... We did that witha few guys last year.

Originally Posted by muibubbles

your thread has so much writing.... i wish there were more pictures =(

There's plenty of pics, but there's also even more derailing attemps