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Old 03-26-2010, 02:43 PM   #1
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B,

You know Foot control is the only TC you need.

Oh yeah, I got my radiator, steel line, and tools in a few days ago. I may be doing some welding this weekend if the weather's right. A much better mounting scheme in the works, plus ducting, and some bulk head fittings still need to be done. But I think my plan will actually make you slightly jealous.
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Exactely..... insights don't make hp, they make me cry with laughter.... silly little cars.

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OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! PARTS CAME IN!!!!!!!!!!!! My sensors showed today, I got 2/3's of the quotes back for the waterjetted trigger wheels, delivery time I was told is not going to be an issue, Firzen is the man and overnighted the new ABS knuckles to me so tomorrow the plan is to template the triggers up so I can give the go ahead on the wheels first thing Monday and have a TC system squared away by the end of the week.

Should be picking up the trans/rear early next week, injectors/coils should be here Monday, now all I need is time

Sensors and a MoTeC engineers personal rotary ignition system..... mmmmmmm :drool: Can't wait to see how CDI matchs up with inductive on the dyno. SOOOOO looking forward to this test.

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Old 03-26-2010, 03:44 PM   #2
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Sensors and a MoTeC engineers personal rotary ignition system..... mmmmmmm :drool: Can't wait to see how CDI matchs up with inductive on the dyno. SOOOOO looking forward to this test.

im looking forward to the results on this as word on the street the inductive gives better low rpm drivability from the 'long burn' but the CDI is better up top under pressure and fluids. specifically igniting high amounts of meth/water

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hmmm interesting, we still need to talk figures though i dont even know if i can afford everything yet, i might be forced to pass on the powdercoating till after deals

but like i said, for the actual work im not so worried about it, i know things will come together just like they always do

im more worried about prices, its the thing that sucks and forces me to budget..... i hate budgeting
I wouldn't worry about the powdercoating prices. Alex and I talked it over. Since everything is in house, the price will probably surprise you.

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oh almost forgot, seats are amazing, like im getting a great big hug from my car, i cant wait for the engine to get tuned so i can really blast around the turns to fully test them out
Awesome, glad to hear it. Be careful. The first thing that I noticed about those seats over my Corbeaus was you cannot feel speed nearly as well. I got on the highway, popped 5th and just started cruising one night, very few cars on the rd, thought to myself, "Why is everyone driving like a blind old lady?" Looked down and I was going 115mph

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im looking forward to the results on this as word on the street the inductive gives better low rpm drivability from the 'long burn' but the CDI is better up top under pressure and fluids. specifically igniting high amounts of meth/water

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Me too. There's alot of us that feel that the inductive nature of the spark will lead to a better burn, more torque etc etc over a CDI on a properly tuned engine. The rotor speed is just so much slower than that of a piston it just seems logical. Like you said though, when you get to much higher chamber pressures, the inductive may not me able to light it off. This is where CDI comes into play. I don't think my engine is at that line where I'll see a benefit, but this is what the testing is all about.

Unfortuneately, there is no water/meth on the FC. It's in the plan for the FD, but setup in a way that I haven't seen a rotary done before. I'm sure I'll be back on the dyno testing a CDI setup vs the winning inductive coil on that engine as well. Looking for 500wheel on that bad ride.....

Time will tell..... assuming I keep getting parts in when they're supposed to be here.

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IMe too. There's alot of us that feel that the inductive nature of the spark will lead to a better burn, more torque etc etc over a CDI on a properly tuned engine. The rotor speed is just so much slower than that of a piston it just seems logical. Like you said though, when you get to much higher chamber pressures, the inductive may not me able to light it off. This is where CDI comes into play. I don't think my engine is at that line where I'll see a benefit, but this is what the testing is all about.
I would tend to believe the iunductives will do better in this case also. Although a different coil, my inductive setup on the TECgt is monstrously powerful. I can't quantify it due to the lack of back to back's, but in comparison to other systems I've ran including two jacobs leading coils and seperate jacob's amps on each (can you say welding arc?) this system stacks up well. I am inclined to think the level that inductive's would run out of steam on is probably quite high. Super anxious to see the results of this setup though.

I heart M&W btw

Oh, and who did the plug wires??
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lol... i try and try to follow this thread but if i miss even ONE day of check up on it there are already like 7 more pages added... and then i have to read alot.....hahaha
Just wait a few more days till I get this winter job out of the way, parts galore come in Monday, tranny and rear tuesday etc etc... Next week will be FILLED with updates, hopefully daily. Heading there right now actually to get some more wiring done...... after I spent the morning doing marine wiring, it's off to do automotive wiring.... it never ends!

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I would tend to believe the iunductives will do better in this case also. Although a different coil, my inductive setup on the TECgt is monstrously powerful. I can't quantify it due to the lack of back to back's, but in comparison to other systems I've ran including two jacobs leading coils and seperate jacob's amps on each (can you say welding arc?) this system stacks up well. I am inclined to think the level that inductive's would run out of steam on is probably quite high. Super anxious to see the results of this setup though.

I heart M&W btw

Oh, and who did the plug wires??
I agree with you Joe. Unless there's TONS of meth and boost to the point where an inductive doesn't have the energy to spark, I think inductives will do much better for a rotary. But we'll see. The FD will most likely see alot more boost and meth as well so I suspect I'll be repeating the test with the winning coil vs the winning CDI.

I love some M&W as well, I'm curious, I hope I don't hurt any feelings

The pulg wires were built by the engineer @ MoTeC that owns the equipment. I've got at least one more order to place with them before this car is done, so what I plan to do is order ~20' of that wire, and all new boots and terminals as well and all new plug wires using the same wire for each. This way someone that sells says the D585's in a kit can't claim that it was the wires that caused those coils to come in where they did, if that happens to be the case.

Where the Hell is Bill BTW???? I need coils from him.

Aight rotards, off to dive into some more TC/chassis/PD wiring.....
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I could give you a simple (hand drawn) sketch of my plan and some details, but it might be a little much for me to make a 3D engineering sketch for it. I've just done a simple test design in Inventor--But what I really have planned will make you think it's pure genius!
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interested on the meth setup for the FD. assuming some type of high speed valve controlled by the motec?

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Yup, two ways I'm thinking about doing it. Either real injectors, or a pump controlled by a PWM output to vary the pressure and the flow.

There's going to be a few other failsafes in there as well all monitored and controlled by the MoTeC. Pressure comp maps, low level warnings, etc etc etc

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Whatever you got, send it over or post it up.... I wanna see
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