FC: Wheel Fitment Thread

[project86]

Based on infernosg's post... if I ran shine 30mm fenders all the way around I could use his same sizes and be fine?

17x9 255/40R17 tires

[infernosg]

Originally Posted by project86

Based on infernosg's post... if I ran shine 30mm fenders all the way around I could use his same sizes and be fine?

17x9 255/40R17 tires

The front will work just fine as long as you have an aftermarket suspension with smaller diameter springs. I have tons of room but I'm also running something like -2.5 degrees of camber. I have no experience with Shine Auto's rear over-fender things. I've looked around online to see how people modified their rear fenders to work with those and it seems like a lot of work. For me it was easier to just bang out the rear fenders about an inch since I was getting bodywork done at the time.

I need to take a more recent, not-blurry picture of my car.

[project86]

Originally Posted by infernosg

The front will work just fine as long as you have an aftermarket suspension with smaller diameter springs. I have tons of room but I'm also running something like -2.5 degrees of camber. I have no experience with Shine Auto's rear over-fender things. I've looked around online to see how people modified their rear fenders to work with those and it seems like a lot of work. For me it was easier to just bang out the rear fenders about an inch since I was getting bodywork done at the time.

I need to take a more recent, not-blurry picture of my car.

Yeah when you do I'd love to see it. I think with any rear over fender some of the metal will have to be cutout to make it really work in providing the extra clearance.

The 19" wheels actually dont look bad. I still wanna stick with a 17". Unfortunately alot of the wheels i like are 16" or 18". I could probably be ok with a 16" im just not sure....

[infernosg]

Originally Posted by project86

The 19" wheels actually dont look bad. I still wanna stick with a 17". Unfortunately alot of the wheels i like are 16" or 18". I could probably be ok with a 16" im just not sure....

I had two issues with 16" wheels: tire selection and suspension clearance. The last time I checked there weren't many options for wide 16" wheels. 245/45R16 was being phased out and 225/50R16 was the most common to run on an 8" wide wheel. My issue with the suspension was the inside rim of the wheel wanted to inhabit the same location as the locking collars on the coilover assembly. I had to use those aftermarket camber bolts to rotate the hub away from the suspension and then dialed the camber back with the coilover top hats.

[RETed]

Originally Posted by Rotary Related

This is wrong. +40 and a 15mm spacer becomes +55. It just pushes the wheel out further from the hub/ rotor face.

Uh...
NO.

Bigger (larger #) the offset, the further in the wheel face is pushed out and the wheel rim (edge) sinks into the wheel well.

"Offset" is defined as the measurement in millimeters the hub mount surface / back of the wheel face is OFFSET from centerline.
Negative offset implies the wheel face is pushed in, while the wheel rim (edge) is pushed out.

A +40 offset wheel with a 15mm space is effective the same as a wheel with a +25(mm) offset.


-Ted

[RETed]

Originally Posted by Rotary Related

It's not the same as a +25mm offset wheel because its a +40mm wheel with a 15mm chunk of aluminium behind it.

It an "effective" +25mm offset, no matter how you argue it.

A +40mm offset wheel + 15mm spacer is effectively a +25mm offset wheel with no spacer.
Both will have the same clearance dimensions from the rim edges inside and outside. (when rim widths are kept the same).
I don't a flying fuck about the "chunk of aluminum behind it".

Meaning the rear of the hub face moves out 15mm more. Also you still have the face of the rim even with the outer lip of the rim.

You're talking about different face profiles and (effectively) brake caliper clearances.
I don't give a flying fuck about those.
We're debating about wheel dimensions, offsets, and clearances.

This would look like crap!

I don't give a flying fuck how the wheels looks like.
You wanna argue about how a wheel looks, go stick your nose into the Drifting subsection.
Again, I REPEAT MYSELF: We're debating about wheel dimensions, offsets, and clearances.

40 plus 15 is 55 last time I checked.

You're right.
That's the straight math.
It also shows you have no idea what rim dimensions and offset mean.
Stick with math - leave the wheel offsets to the people who do understand it.

This is what's confusing about offsets and spacers you are not accounting for the rims lip position in space in relation to the fender and suspension.

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Leave the discussion to people who know what they are talking about.
You, obviously, don't know what you are talking about.

With your math my 16x8 wheels wth +12mm offset, and I put a 12mm spacer behind it and it becomes a zero offset wheel? No it doesn't its still a 12mm offset wheel. Buy the right wheels. Spacers are terrible.

Again, you are just showing you have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm not sure I understand what your saying now actually after reading it again I think you actually agreed with me after saying no. Do people want flat faced rims? I can't even fathom that lol. All I know is when I calculated my wheels then ordered them they came and fit exactly.

No, you have a problem with reading comprehension.
I never agreed with any of your balony falsehoods in the first place.

You want to argue how wheels looks?
Go post your shit in the Drifting section.
This thread has NOTHING to do with how a wheel looks.

I don't diss people cause they like flat-faced rims - it's their preference.
You're a cause you're insulting the people who do like those kinda wheels.
People like you make me shame I'm connected with the rotary engine...

Agree to disagree on the math?

No.
I agree that you:
1) have a reading comprehension problem
2) have a problem expressing yourself in words
3) have no clue what "offset" means
4) a prejudice jackass insulting people cause it doesn't agree with your "sense of style" (puke)


-Ted