FC3S Murray's never ending build.

[FC3S Murray]

Thanks man. Your color is great and unique. I need not mention the tails since "our kind" are slanderized for such hideous 80's tail light obsession.

I HOPE this is jsut a remove and replace job. If that rear rotor housing is fucked so is my hope to have it out this summer. With the new mortgage, a rebuild is gonna take enough time and money to let damn old man winter rear his ugly head again up here in Montana by the time I am finished.

Wife and daughter make free time very very slim.

[FC3S Murray]

...............................man I am losing motivation to even stay in the rotary scene. Never ending bullshit!

[TitaniumTT]

Rotaries - only the strong survive.

Hang in there man. I can tell you from experience, mostly bad, expensive, and of the setback variety. It's worth it when they're done. Very few cars can make my pants tight when I drive them.

[FC3S Murray]

I know I know. I got my new rear iron in today. Will post up some pics when I get home.

Pretty beefy new casting.

[FC3S Murray]

So after a couple calls to some rotary performance shops and a little critical thinking I decided to order 3 new side seals as well.

I figured since I am putting a brand new iron on there is no reason to use the old side seals and prolong the break in time. The new seals will not have near as many imperfections and will break in the new iron faster.

I am still in the air over how long I should break in the new iron/seals. I am awaiting word from Kevin BUT I think I am gonna play it safe and go 1500 miles.

That is a shit load of city driving but it beats rushing it and popping the motor. At least I have the engine tuned for the most part and will only need to add a little more fuel on the top just for added safety until I see what this new port on the rear iron flows like.

Speaking of the port, I am going to send the bad iron and the new iron to Rotary Performance in Texas to match port since they were the orignal builders/porters of this motor.

I am a little reluctant leaving the engine torn apart for that time frame BUT I will have that SOB safety wired snug. I bet I use a whole spool of that shit.
I REALLY wish I could just send the new iron to Chris and have him do a "standard" street port but unfortunately they built this motor so long ago who knows if the port template has changed. It just isn't worth the risk of the new iron having a larger OR smaller port then the rest of the engine and risking a different AFR per rotor chamber because of air flow differences.

Pics up soon as soon as I move into my new house next weekend. It is amazing how much crap can pile up in your garage over time when building these cars. I am HORRIBLE at saving shit.

[JShiz]

That sucks. Don't give up. Your car is truely amazing.

[FC3S Murray]

Thanks. I won't give up, I have too much shit specifically for this car. Would be a huge loss to my wallet too.

Kevin told me that break in is almost none existant on side seals. GREAT news!!

[Prodigy]

So I know my opinion will mean a tiny bit less then a blind/deaf person... But the car looks spectacular.... Running or not I just want to stare at it....


I found a qoute from earlier in this thread, I think it sums up pretty much what I think you should do....

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

Thanks. I won't give up, I have too much shit specifically for this car. Would be a huge loss to my wallet too.

It's a pain in the ass to own these cars... They are like aircraft engines... 3 hours of work for 1/2hour of operation... But as stated before, when they are running, it makes it all worth it...

For some reason it is so much better then any piston car... Might be the fact there is no pistons... But either way...

I think it's worth the effort.... That is my opinion though....



Either way... The build so far looks so awesome... One of the cleanest S4's I've seen, in and out, and the engine bay too... Props for all the work you have put in....


J.

[classicauto]

Yeah I wouldn't worry too much about the mileage with regards to side seals bedding into that iron.

Biggest thing IMO with fresh items like irons and housings (or bearings) would be getting a few heat cycles into the part(s) before laying down the law.

Best of luck bro, we should have a rebuild race!

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by classicauto

Best of luck bro, we should have a rebuild race!

I would hope you win. You got to be damn fast at it now. lol

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by classicauto

Best of luck bro, we should have a rebuild race!

Good luck Murray. Most important thing with breakin, I have found anyway, is a few good heat cycles. You can do 1500 miles at once and they won't be broken it too well. A dozen heat cycles would be plenty I should think. Beautiful car, clean project, glad to see you're sticking with it

-Brian

[classicauto]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Is this the "how many bloody rebuild races can you have in a season" smilie

[TitaniumTT]

Sorta, it's the I went to the dyno/comp test today and got 3 bounces of 113 on the front and 3 bounces @ 113 on the rear and one @ 88. So we think a side seal got stuck. We were going to dyno today but the convo went like this
So Dave, ya wanna strap her down and have some fun?
You're gonna break her if you do
Really? I've put ~2k+ miles since the overheat.
Yeah, but not on the dyno.
No, but really?
You want me to call Enterprise and reserve a car for you?
So we just hung around and shot the shit for a few hours.

So yeah, gonna be doing pretty much exactely what Murray is doing. Popping the rear plate, fixing what's bad, and reassembling. THEN go back to the dyno, up the boost, and the rev limit. Personally, it's the boost that I want, I kept working the sequentials on the trip home, my rotary lord those things spool like a bejeezus. Without paying attention I hit the boost cut ~2k in 5th. Boost cut is 14psi right now. SICK SICK SICK response.

So yeah Murray.... you game?

[FC3S Murray]

Oh I am game! You might have me beat though. I have the wife hanging over my head with the death stare until we finish painting the inside of the new house. Two weeks and the games begin!!

Thanks for the compliments as well.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

Oh I am game! You might have me beat though. I have the wife hanging over my head with the death stare until we finish painting the inside of the new house. Two weeks and the games begin!!

Thanks for the compliments as well.

Hmmmm, well I just went auto-x'ing and realized that there are two things that I need - More RPM's and low end boost - sequentials. Can't get either until I get the motor rebuilt. Next event is June 7th, I'm hoping to make it.