RX8 Mini Project - Page 4

2gslse · 03-25-2011, 04:10 PM

OK its installed... its been 2 hours now where is the dyno runs?

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-26-2011, 01:30 AM

You guys gonna bring a 3rd renni to see if you can top me with the BNR stg 3's singing @ 17-19lbs

Looks good Bill! You didn't happen to get a chance to call a certain someone that shares the same awesome first name as me regarding stopping things?

We still gotta figure out meetup times/place and dyno get togethers.... sorry for the jack, just got back from a place called burgers and beer..... they had they plurul/singular reversed in my case

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-26-2011, 01:31 AM

Oh, and when I see RX8 mini project, I keep waiting to see some little british thing rocking a renni

WE3RX7 · 03-26-2011, 08:39 AM

Ha.. it's not so 'mini' I guess. Maybe I should call it "My RX8 dirty build" since a certain somebody says I need a "dirty" built car and this is the closest thing to it.

And no - I didn't get a chance to call him.. I got to MC's later than I expected and by the time I got home it was too late. I got 3 calls from clients though so the rx7 money train may be coming back around for a little while, lol...

WE3RX7 · 03-26-2011, 09:31 AM

Ok, here's the "official" update.

Installed the resurfaced MS flywheel, counterweight and a stage II Exedy 3 puck clutch. Also wrapped the midpipe again since I wasn't happy with the original wrap job.

Pics:

Look TTT, it's a lift...

Counterweight in...

Mmm, freshly resurfaced flywheel and 3 puck disc...

All buttoned up with a super secret custom alignment tool, lol...

Also re-wrapped the midpipe as my first midpipe wrap job was sub-par...

Impressions thus far... 7/10. I've put about 100 miles on it now and its getting better but its a bit noisier than I remember the ACT puck clutches being but Exedy says 1500 miles and it should be good. I'm still fine tuning the engagement point as the initial pedal feel was terrible and I wasn't getting full disengagement.

Apparently during that whole process my neutral switch took a shit (or maybe its not plugged in, need to crawl underneath again and find out) so I've got a searching idle. Not a big deal, more of just an inconvenience.

Other than all that, its a great feel. The car definitely pulls through the gears quicker, my rear tires are really feeling the difference

This should put me a bit closer to that 190whp goal now, lol.

Something else that was interesting... my rear pinion seal has leaked since I bought the car at 32k miles. Took it to Mazda to get them to replace under warranty and that stated they did, however, its still leaking. We expected the seal and MC noted an "up" and a "down" fitment on the seal, and well.. mine is upside down. So, either the car came from the factory with an upside down seal, thus the leak... or the Mazda dealership installed a new seal upside down... thus still leaking. I wasn't able to source a new one quickly enough for this job, so I'll order one up here and when I fix the neutral switch, I'll put the seal in too..

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-26-2011, 01:07 PM

hrm..... from what I remember in my barely standing sleep deprived state... that's not your garage

Either way, looks good man, I'm interested to see what she puts down with a little freed up unsprung weight. I still think one of us needs to do a back to back with the kickass QuickSilver coils that MC's rocking and the tiny little LS2 coils that you've got. I wouldn't be surprised if the coils were what put MC over the top. He was running the stock tune to give him the highest hp right?

2gslse · 03-26-2011, 02:37 PM

Yep stock ecu I still have my extra set of coils ready to run on that pesky FC if you want I'll bring them back to dave's just say the word. It is my dads shop but I use it whenever I need to use the lift, its nice to have a fully equipped shop at your disposal I need to learn how to weld since everything I would need is there except a tig and plasma cutter.

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-26-2011, 04:18 PM

I dunno know if the pesky FC will allow us the time to tune and then swap coils. I have a bad feeling that we'll be mucking around with the tranny/driveshaft all day on the 16th, maybe get a little tuning in the low boost ranges but I doubt we'll be able to dial her in like I want to. I may have to head back the wednesday before we leave to get everything dialed in but we'll see. Worse comes to worst, oh no, we'll set up a seperate day to go play, maybe bring Rays up there as well.

That's badass that you have an entire lift at your disposal.... TIG and plasma are musts though!

I think Bill needs to build an adapter harness for his 8 so he can swap coils out and test the QuickSilvers, who knows, it might be enough to put him over the 194 mark

WE3RX7 · 03-26-2011, 05:42 PM

Yup - MC was also running stock values. From what I can tell though, those quicksilver coils use very close to stock dwell values, whereas my LS coils dont. I left a lot on the table as far as potential for power out of those coils. I wont make that mistake the next time.

I'm not sure I'll dyno on the 15th honestly... may not have the clutch broken in yet. We'll see.. also want to make sure my neutral switch is fixed, etc before getting up there...

2gslse · 03-26-2011, 06:08 PM

I think someone is SCARED

lol... a good shop is great to have but its always a loaner so I don't want to do major drawn out things there so I reserve it for engine/trans swaps and then drag them back to my little garage with the bobcat

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-27-2011, 03:47 AM

I agree, how hard is it to break a clutch in? Not to mention, leaving power on the table? The coils need to make power in order to leave some laying around, it is afterall a gm product....
And the real zinger... you are making the same mistake twice, you're bringing a renni to a hp/dyno fight

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-27-2011, 03:47 AM

I agree, how hard is it to break a clutch in? Not to mention, leaving power on the table? The coils need to make power in order to leave some laying around, it is afterall a gm product....
And the real zinger... you are making the same mistake twice, you're bringing a renni to a hp/dyno fight

WE3RX7 · 03-27-2011, 08:45 AM

How hard is it to post only once? lol...

Yea, I'll make an effort to actually drive the car some more between now and the 15th. I've only got 100 miles on the clutch, I'd like to get at least 250 before dyno runs, lol.

Need to get a new rear seal and neutral switch too. I'm half tempted to take it to work and drop it off at mazda and get them to replace it for free since its obviously a mess up on their end and should be warrantied.

To top it off, its SNOWING right now... really? Snow...

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-27-2011, 12:35 PM

Its not me, its my phone! The seal I can understand and a puck clutch is kinda tough. From what I hear jersey got almost a foot of snow a few days ago.... looks like I picked a good time to come out here

2gslse · 04-26-2011, 08:27 PM

Bill, its almost racing season for the 8 but I would like to see you do this http://www.dump.com/2011/02/24/unrea...-cbr600-video/

03-25-2011, 04:10 PM	#46
2gslse Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: front royal va Posts: 440 Rep Power: 18	OK its installed... its been 2 hours now where is the dyno runs? __________________ ____________________________________________ 1976 Cosmo needing lots of work 1993 Rx-7 410 RWHP single turbo toy 1985 Rx-7 toy/project car 411HP stoplight terror 2001 Dodge ram 4wd.parts hauler 2016 Ram 2500 cause its a hemi 2006 VW TDI commuter __________________________________________ I guarantee there's a pregnant redneck teenager somewhere in a shitty trailer park that thinks "Ebola would be a lovely name for their child"...

03-26-2011, 01:30 AM	#47
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	You guys gonna bring a 3rd renni to see if you can top me with the BNR stg 3's singing @ 17-19lbs Looks good Bill! You didn't happen to get a chance to call a certain someone that shares the same awesome first name as me regarding stopping things? We still gotta figure out meetup times/place and dyno get togethers.... sorry for the jack, just got back from a place called burgers and beer..... they had they plurul/singular reversed in my case __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

03-26-2011, 01:31 AM	#48
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Oh, and when I see RX8 mini project, I keep waiting to see some little british thing rocking a renni __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

03-26-2011, 09:31 AM	#50
WE3RX7 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,812 Rep Power: 19	Ok, here's the "official" update. Installed the resurfaced MS flywheel, counterweight and a stage II Exedy 3 puck clutch. Also wrapped the midpipe again since I wasn't happy with the original wrap job. Pics: Look TTT, it's a lift... Counterweight in... Mmm, freshly resurfaced flywheel and 3 puck disc... All buttoned up with a super secret custom alignment tool, lol... Also re-wrapped the midpipe as my first midpipe wrap job was sub-par... Impressions thus far... 7/10. I've put about 100 miles on it now and its getting better but its a bit noisier than I remember the ACT puck clutches being but Exedy says 1500 miles and it should be good. I'm still fine tuning the engagement point as the initial pedal feel was terrible and I wasn't getting full disengagement. Apparently during that whole process my neutral switch took a shit (or maybe its not plugged in, need to crawl underneath again and find out) so I've got a searching idle. Not a big deal, more of just an inconvenience. Other than all that, its a great feel. The car definitely pulls through the gears quicker, my rear tires are really feeling the difference This should put me a bit closer to that 190whp goal now, lol. Something else that was interesting... my rear pinion seal has leaked since I bought the car at 32k miles. Took it to Mazda to get them to replace under warranty and that stated they did, however, its still leaking. We expected the seal and MC noted an "up" and a "down" fitment on the seal, and well.. mine is upside down. So, either the car came from the factory with an upside down seal, thus the leak... or the Mazda dealership installed a new seal upside down... thus still leaking. I wasn't able to source a new one quickly enough for this job, so I'll order one up here and when I fix the neutral switch, I'll put the seal in too.. Last edited by WE3RX7; 03-26-2011 at 09:36 AM.

03-26-2011, 01:07 PM	#51
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	hrm..... from what I remember in my barely standing sleep deprived state... that's not your garage Either way, looks good man, I'm interested to see what she puts down with a little freed up unsprung weight. I still think one of us needs to do a back to back with the kickass QuickSilver coils that MC's rocking and the tiny little LS2 coils that you've got. I wouldn't be surprised if the coils were what put MC over the top. He was running the stock tune to give him the highest hp right? __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

03-26-2011, 08:39 AM	#49
WE3RX7 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,812 Rep Power: 19	Ha.. it's not so 'mini' I guess. Maybe I should call it "My RX8 dirty build" since a certain somebody says I need a "dirty" built car and this is the closest thing to it. And no - I didn't get a chance to call him.. I got to MC's later than I expected and by the time I got home it was too late. I got 3 calls from clients though so the rx7 money train may be coming back around for a little while, lol...

03-26-2011, 02:37 PM	#52
2gslse Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: front royal va Posts: 440 Rep Power: 18	Yep stock ecu I still have my extra set of coils ready to run on that pesky FC if you want I'll bring them back to dave's just say the word. It is my dads shop but I use it whenever I need to use the lift, its nice to have a fully equipped shop at your disposal I need to learn how to weld since everything I would need is there except a tig and plasma cutter. __________________ ____________________________________________ 1976 Cosmo needing lots of work 1993 Rx-7 410 RWHP single turbo toy 1985 Rx-7 toy/project car 411HP stoplight terror 2001 Dodge ram 4wd.parts hauler 2016 Ram 2500 cause its a hemi 2006 VW TDI commuter __________________________________________ I guarantee there's a pregnant redneck teenager somewhere in a shitty trailer park that thinks "Ebola would be a lovely name for their child"...

03-26-2011, 04:18 PM	#53
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	I dunno know if the pesky FC will allow us the time to tune and then swap coils. I have a bad feeling that we'll be mucking around with the tranny/driveshaft all day on the 16th, maybe get a little tuning in the low boost ranges but I doubt we'll be able to dial her in like I want to. I may have to head back the wednesday before we leave to get everything dialed in but we'll see. Worse comes to worst, oh no, we'll set up a seperate day to go play, maybe bring Rays up there as well. That's badass that you have an entire lift at your disposal.... TIG and plasma are musts though! I think Bill needs to build an adapter harness for his 8 so he can swap coils out and test the QuickSilvers, who knows, it might be enough to put him over the 194 mark __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

03-26-2011, 05:42 PM	#54
WE3RX7 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,812 Rep Power: 19	Yup - MC was also running stock values. From what I can tell though, those quicksilver coils use very close to stock dwell values, whereas my LS coils dont. I left a lot on the table as far as potential for power out of those coils. I wont make that mistake the next time. I'm not sure I'll dyno on the 15th honestly... may not have the clutch broken in yet. We'll see.. also want to make sure my neutral switch is fixed, etc before getting up there...

03-26-2011, 06:08 PM	#55
2gslse Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: front royal va Posts: 440 Rep Power: 18	I think someone is SCARED lol... a good shop is great to have but its always a loaner so I don't want to do major drawn out things there so I reserve it for engine/trans swaps and then drag them back to my little garage with the bobcat __________________ ____________________________________________ 1976 Cosmo needing lots of work 1993 Rx-7 410 RWHP single turbo toy 1985 Rx-7 toy/project car 411HP stoplight terror 2001 Dodge ram 4wd.parts hauler 2016 Ram 2500 cause its a hemi 2006 VW TDI commuter __________________________________________ I guarantee there's a pregnant redneck teenager somewhere in a shitty trailer park that thinks "Ebola would be a lovely name for their child"...

03-27-2011, 03:47 AM	#56
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	I agree, how hard is it to break a clutch in? Not to mention, leaving power on the table? The coils need to make power in order to leave some laying around, it is afterall a gm product.... And the real zinger... you are making the same mistake twice, you're bringing a renni to a hp/dyno fight __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

03-27-2011, 08:45 AM	#58
WE3RX7 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,812 Rep Power: 19	How hard is it to post only once? lol... Yea, I'll make an effort to actually drive the car some more between now and the 15th. I've only got 100 miles on the clutch, I'd like to get at least 250 before dyno runs, lol. Need to get a new rear seal and neutral switch too. I'm half tempted to take it to work and drop it off at mazda and get them to replace it for free since its obviously a mess up on their end and should be warrantied. To top it off, its SNOWING right now... really? Snow...

03-27-2011, 12:35 PM	#59
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Its not me, its my phone! The seal I can understand and a puck clutch is kinda tough. From what I hear jersey got almost a foot of snow a few days ago.... looks like I picked a good time to come out here __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

04-26-2011, 08:27 PM	#60
2gslse Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: front royal va Posts: 440 Rep Power: 18	Bill, its almost racing season for the 8 but I would like to see you do this http://www.dump.com/2011/02/24/unrea...-cbr600-video/ __________________ ____________________________________________ 1976 Cosmo needing lots of work 1993 Rx-7 410 RWHP single turbo toy 1985 Rx-7 toy/project car 411HP stoplight terror 2001 Dodge ram 4wd.parts hauler 2016 Ram 2500 cause its a hemi 2006 VW TDI commuter __________________________________________ I guarantee there's a pregnant redneck teenager somewhere in a shitty trailer park that thinks "Ebola would be a lovely name for their child"...