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hIGGI 08-10-2008 01:58 PM

possible S5 TII OMP problem
 
S5 TII, fresh rebuild

car runs like shit when u try to load it up a little bit, which seems to be OMP problem....i checked resistance on 6pin connector and there is none, assuming OMP is really bad....

question is : can i use some resistors and 'cheat' stock ECU to run ok without OMP or is my only solution to find some good OMP?

Phoenix7 08-10-2008 02:51 PM

I looked at the specs for both the NA and TII oil pumps and here are the differences:

NA pump diameter x width of rotor: 50mm x 17.5mm
TII pump diameter x width of rotor: 50mm x 12.5mm

You may have a hard time using an NA OMP pump if you look to replace it. Let me know if you want to trick the ECU or get aa new OMP.

Boostmaniac 08-11-2008 07:46 AM

This problem just doesn't sound right. Do you have any more info on the engine?

hIGGI 08-13-2008 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix7 (Post 38671)
I looked at the specs for both the NA and TII oil pumps and here are the differences:

NA pump diameter x width of rotor: 50mm x 17.5mm
TII pump diameter x width of rotor: 50mm x 12.5mm

You may have a hard time using an NA OMP pump if you look to replace it. Let me know if you want to trick the ECU or get aa new OMP.

:beatdeadhorse5:

I am talking about OMP, not oil pump.....

hIGGI 08-13-2008 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boostmaniac (Post 38749)
This problem just doesn't sound right. Do you have any more info on the engine?

I have built engine and everything else in test came ok. I had same car (with no problems) sitting next to this one and i checked and compared everything, replaced fuel pump, afm, boost sensor, measured tps etc...)
Last thing i tried was unhooking OMP on working car and it started to behave exactly same like car with problem. Then i measured resistance/voltage on OMP of working car and on other car as well - working car had good results, problem car none. Thats the point where i found OMP (or its wiring) to be faulty and thats why it goes into limp mode. With some luck, i might get working S5 OMP from friend today and will hook it up friday to see if its all whats wrong...

Will let u know

Phoenix7 08-13-2008 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hIGGI (Post 39019)
:beatdeadhorse5:

I am talking about OMP, not oil pump.....

:svengo:

hIGGI 08-15-2008 12:34 AM

have spare OMP from friend, will try to hook it up today and let u know results.....

RETed 08-15-2008 04:57 AM

You cannot fool the stock ECU unless you get a microcontroller.
The problem is that there's a feedback circuit which tells the stock ECU what position the stepper motor is in.
This is the big problem.
It's easy to fool the stock ECU into "seeing" the 3 stepper motors (via resistors), but how do you fool the feedback circuit?


-Ted

hIGGI 08-17-2008 02:10 PM

Replaced OMP today, problem fixed....

Max777 08-17-2008 07:52 PM

well, you can either:

A: Buy the RTEK S5 omp canelling chip for $100, then get a S5 OMP block off plate, gasket, and RTV to seal it..

or,

B: Get another used S5 OMP, and refurbish the lines courtesy of a guide on the evil forum.


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