Falken Azenis RT615 - Page 2

Rogue_Wulff · 11-15-2008, 04:54 PM

I may pick up a set of these for my FB. Since the new PAX numbers make CSP "Faster" than BSP, I am probably dropping back to STS (formerly STS2) for next year, and this is one the tires to have for the ST classes.
Of course, I may bring out the other FB, and run CSP or SSM. In that case, I may try the Falken's there.
Sheer lunacy in the new PAX numbers. N/A RX7's (SA/FB & FC) is Street Prepared trim are now theoreticly faster than a TII FC with the same level of prep.

P71 · 11-16-2008, 01:11 AM

They still have STS2. And PAX is for losers, raw time is all that matters.

Rogue_Wulff · 11-16-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P71

They still have STS2. And PAX is for losers, raw time is all that matters.

STS is now ST, STS2 is now STS, and SM2 is now SSM. This change takes effect for the 2009 season of SCCA sanctioned events.
As for PAX, smaller regions still allow for entering 2 classes, both the base class, and an open PAX class.
The PAX index is supposed to take the cars potential out of the picture, but the newest number have NA RX7's and Miata's is a "Faster" class than the turbo versions of the same cars. Pure silliness.

P71 · 11-16-2008, 09:06 PM

And thus why I ignore the SCCA Rulebook and run "Time Only" with those dingalings. Running the "Non Porsche" class at PCA events is a lot more fun, competitive, and numerous (8 events in Portland vs 2 for the SCCA).

Rogue_Wulff · 11-17-2008, 01:35 AM

While it's true that running the NP class at PCA events is fun, the local PCA doesn't allow anything but porsche's to run. The next closest PCA does, but that's a lot longer of a drive. Plus, they hold their events at a track that has little room for error. I don't relish the thought of putting my car in the trees, and having to walk ~75 miles home, get my truck and borrow a trailer, just to get whats left of the car home. At least SCCA events have a decent margin for error, which I have been known to need..... Not often, but it does happen, even to the best drivers.

FortyfiveD · 12-03-2008, 12:40 AM

I'm on my second set had my first set well over the mileage I was told they would last for. I did four track days ( three at Buttonwillow and one at streets of willow) and all my daily driving. The only reason I had to get a new set was I got a nail in one and had too much camber on the wheels (which I didn't correct in time) other than that I would have still been on my first ones.

Brent · 06-26-2009, 03:56 PM

I wanted to come back and re-visit this. I was really pleased with my RT-615's when I first purchased them, and I still think they are a good street performance tire and prob. a good Auto X tire for the money, but I don't like them as a track tire. As someone already mentioned in this thread, when they fall off, they fall off hard. I've had a couple of instances where they have let go on me like an R Compound does. No warning whatsoever, air pressure is good, no warning, no making noise... just completely letting go. I'm running Dunlop Direzza Z1 Starspecs now and I think they are a better tire all around.

MaczPayne · 06-26-2009, 11:54 PM

The RT's are a great tire for the price, but performance wise, it's now eclipsed by the newer models, like the Z1 and Hankook RS3. I'll be moving to either of the two when mine wear out.

Turbo II · 09-27-2009, 11:22 PM

Oh hi, I'm still using them...

They've been great on the street/highway and a trip over the river and through the woods to grandmothers house (ok, a very serious road trip through the mountains) but I haven't been able to do any events with them other than tinkering around VIR a couple of times. I'm not gonna get the mileage out of them that I got of the T1Rs but I expected that. Overall I'm still pleased with these tires, especially for the money I paid for them.

***TitaniumTT*** · 09-28-2009, 10:07 PM

For the money they are hard to beat, although I do easily overpower them in the lower hears. From a 1st gear roll the traction in gone by 5k and in 2nd by the top of the powerband and that's just going in a strait line. Pretty easy to get the rear loose with a heavy foot.

I will say though that it's tough to get my car to understeer which is a nice turn of events. Mileage has been great thus far (prob closer to 8k now, can't tell for sure, no accurate odometer) and the road noise is nil. Overall I'd rec them but I'm kinda leaning towards trying something different for next year. Nitto is supposed to be coming out with a really ubber high perf tire, actually I think they already have, NT-05 maybe? that's in the same price range.

Personally I cannot justify a tire at more than ~$150 when the lifespan is so short. Hell, I got close to 90k out of my last set of Bridgestone Dueller MT's..... granted they started out with 5" deep cleats and were drag slicks when I was done but still

I paid about $550 delivered and then $80 at a local shop to mount and balance.

Anywho, I've been happy with them on the street and the auto-x's. I had big plans to attend a few track days but it just didn't happen. Next year

Oh - 235/40/17 and 255/40/17.

MaczPayne · 09-29-2009, 01:05 AM

I need to start autocrossing again, just to even out that camber wear I'm putting on the tires!

classicauto · 09-29-2009, 03:41 PM

Just throwing this out there because this threads at the top and I'm here

Tried out a set of Dunlop Direzza, DZ101's on the rear of the FC (rear FK452's were killed. I are burnout happy) and I have to say - GREAT sticky street tire, but pricey. The falkens were a bit harder then these, at least going by "how-much-throttle-can-they-hold" measurement. They're also nice in the rain with a slick tread pattern.

I have used aziens in the past though, good tire, but IMO there's MUCH better stuff out there now.

josh18_2k · 09-29-2009, 09:30 PM

DZ101 =/= Z1. theyre the 'all season' variety. try some Z1's and blow yo mind. or xs. or rs3. or whatever else came out this year lol
SCCA ST classes are very competitive for tire manufacturers, so whatever is being used is what you want

Rogue_Wulff · 12-02-2009, 07:37 AM

Just an FYI. Discount tire direct has an $80 mail in rebate offer on any set of 4 RT-615's good thru the end of April.

Of course, the RT-615-K is coming out soon. Same basic tire with a revised compound to improve grip even more. Kinda like the Z1 "Star Spec" improved on the original Z1.

11-16-2008, 01:11 AM	#17
P71 RCC Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WA State Posts: 651 Rep Power: 18	They still have STS2. And PAX is for losers, raw time is all that matters. __________________ Michael Pinto 2008 PDXCGP Drag Racing Season Champion 83 RX-7 GSL; 12A/5-Speed, Red/Red; 100% Stock - 16.072@83.39 01 CV Police Interceptor; 4.6 SOHC V8/4R70W, Dk Blue/Grey; K&N FIPK/RP Oil/Optima/Superchips/Flowmaster 40's/2.5" cat-back - 14.854@92.37 Read my Rx-7 Build Thread! http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ed=1#post70955 Get on the new RCC 1/4 Mile ET List! http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...read.php?t=368 Vote for the ROTM! http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...play.php?f=125

11-16-2008, 09:06 PM	#19
P71 RCC Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WA State Posts: 651 Rep Power: 18	And thus why I ignore the SCCA Rulebook and run "Time Only" with those dingalings. Running the "Non Porsche" class at PCA events is a lot more fun, competitive, and numerous (8 events in Portland vs 2 for the SCCA). __________________ Michael Pinto 2008 PDXCGP Drag Racing Season Champion 83 RX-7 GSL; 12A/5-Speed, Red/Red; 100% Stock - 16.072@83.39 01 CV Police Interceptor; 4.6 SOHC V8/4R70W, Dk Blue/Grey; K&N FIPK/RP Oil/Optima/Superchips/Flowmaster 40's/2.5" cat-back - 14.854@92.37 Read my Rx-7 Build Thread! http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ed=1#post70955 Get on the new RCC 1/4 Mile ET List! http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...read.php?t=368 Vote for the ROTM! http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...play.php?f=125

12-03-2008, 12:40 AM	#21
FortyfiveD Amudextrious Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Garden Grove,CA Posts: 67 Rep Power: 17	I'm on my second set had my first set well over the mileage I was told they would last for. I did four track days ( three at Buttonwillow and one at streets of willow) and all my daily driving. The only reason I had to get a new set was I got a nail in one and had too much camber on the wheels (which I didn't correct in time) other than that I would have still been on my first ones. __________________ 90 GXL-DD and Track Monster 87 GT-X-Under Construction

06-26-2009, 03:56 PM	#22
Brent Sua Sponte Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 839 Rep Power: 18	I wanted to come back and re-visit this. I was really pleased with my RT-615's when I first purchased them, and I still think they are a good street performance tire and prob. a good Auto X tire for the money, but I don't like them as a track tire. As someone already mentioned in this thread, when they fall off, they fall off hard. I've had a couple of instances where they have let go on me like an R Compound does. No warning whatsoever, air pressure is good, no warning, no making noise... just completely letting go. I'm running Dunlop Direzza Z1 Starspecs now and I think they are a better tire all around. __________________ Road Atlanta August 2011 NASA TT 1:33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFY00PAK_Ps Traqmate's video of my car from the 2011 UTCC at VIR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zcn6...layer_embedded Video of Yellow LS1 FD at NASA TT at VIR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6k0lJkcwrM

06-26-2009, 11:54 PM	#23
MaczPayne Bah! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, SoCal Posts: 442 Rep Power: 18	The RT's are a great tire for the price, but performance wise, it's now eclipsed by the newer models, like the Z1 and Hankook RS3. I'll be moving to either of the two when mine wear out. __________________ Johnson TA FC in the works!

11-15-2008, 04:54 PM	#16
Rogue_Wulff Non Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 17	I may pick up a set of these for my FB. Since the new PAX numbers make CSP "Faster" than BSP, I am probably dropping back to STS (formerly STS2) for next year, and this is one the tires to have for the ST classes. Of course, I may bring out the other FB, and run CSP or SSM. In that case, I may try the Falken's there. Sheer lunacy in the new PAX numbers. N/A RX7's (SA/FB & FC) is Street Prepared trim are now theoreticly faster than a TII FC with the same level of prep.

11-17-2008, 01:35 AM	#20
Rogue_Wulff Non Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 17	While it's true that running the NP class at PCA events is fun, the local PCA doesn't allow anything but porsche's to run. The next closest PCA does, but that's a lot longer of a drive. Plus, they hold their events at a track that has little room for error. I don't relish the thought of putting my car in the trees, and having to walk ~75 miles home, get my truck and borrow a trailer, just to get whats left of the car home. At least SCCA events have a decent margin for error, which I have been known to need..... Not often, but it does happen, even to the best drivers.

09-27-2009, 11:22 PM	#24
Turbo II Zoom Freaking Zoom Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NC Posts: 324 Rep Power: 18	Oh hi, I'm still using them... They've been great on the street/highway and a trip over the river and through the woods to grandmothers house (ok, a very serious road trip through the mountains) but I haven't been able to do any events with them other than tinkering around VIR a couple of times. I'm not gonna get the mileage out of them that I got of the T1Rs but I expected that. Overall I'm still pleased with these tires, especially for the money I paid for them. __________________ 1988 RX-7 Convertible 1991 RX-7 Turbo 2004 RX-8 GT 1985 RX-7 GSL - Sold

09-28-2009, 10:07 PM	#25
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	For the money they are hard to beat, although I do easily overpower them in the lower hears. From a 1st gear roll the traction in gone by 5k and in 2nd by the top of the powerband and that's just going in a strait line. Pretty easy to get the rear loose with a heavy foot. I will say though that it's tough to get my car to understeer which is a nice turn of events. Mileage has been great thus far (prob closer to 8k now, can't tell for sure, no accurate odometer) and the road noise is nil. Overall I'd rec them but I'm kinda leaning towards trying something different for next year. Nitto is supposed to be coming out with a really ubber high perf tire, actually I think they already have, NT-05 maybe? that's in the same price range. Personally I cannot justify a tire at more than ~$150 when the lifespan is so short. Hell, I got close to 90k out of my last set of Bridgestone Dueller MT's..... granted they started out with 5" deep cleats and were drag slicks when I was done but still I paid about $550 delivered and then $80 at a local shop to mount and balance. Anywho, I've been happy with them on the street and the auto-x's. I had big plans to attend a few track days but it just didn't happen. Next year Oh - 235/40/17 and 255/40/17. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

09-29-2009, 01:05 AM	#26
MaczPayne Bah! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, SoCal Posts: 442 Rep Power: 18	I need to start autocrossing again, just to even out that camber wear I'm putting on the tires! __________________ Johnson TA FC in the works!

09-29-2009, 09:30 PM	#28
josh18_2k Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gresham, OR Posts: 473 Rep Power: 18	DZ101 =/= Z1. theyre the 'all season' variety. try some Z1's and blow yo mind. or xs. or rs3. or whatever else came out this year lol SCCA ST classes are very competitive for tire manufacturers, so whatever is being used is what you want __________________

12-02-2009, 07:37 AM	#29
Rogue_Wulff Non Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 17	Just an FYI. Discount tire direct has an $80 mail in rebate offer on any set of 4 RT-615's good thru the end of April. Of course, the RT-615-K is coming out soon. Same basic tire with a revised compound to improve grip even more. Kinda like the Z1 "Star Spec" improved on the original Z1.