Aftermarket Springs and AAS?

[infernosg]

Originally Posted by djmtsu

Tein can be stiff on the FC. One of the versions (don't remember) has a larger diameter spring for the fronts than the factory springs. So you would get potential rubbing.

Why not get Ground Control?

Definitely good info again. I've heard bad things about coil sleeves from the crowd with my last car, but are the Ground Control sleeves any good for the RX-7? Pricier, obviously, but still may be a little much for what I'm looking for though. I've also been looking at Racing Beat springs, but again, I don't know what experience people have had with them (I know of issues with their exhaust fitment).

[Rx-7fetish]

Originally Posted by infernosg

Definitely good info again. I've heard bad things about coil sleeves from the crowd with my last car, but are the Ground Control sleeves any good for the RX-7?

I run ground control on my daily driver and love it. When your order a set of their coilovers they ask you how you drive the car the most and send you springs stiffness according to what you tell them.

Originally Posted by RETed

Are you trying to avoid these brands?
If so, then stay away from the Tanabe GF210's and the Tein S-Tech's.
Both are known to have larger diameters, thus you'll end up with LESS clearance than stock.

Tien S-tech was what i ran before the ground control, i had to use wheel spacers to keep from rubbing, when i took them off i found one of the front springs had sagged a noticeable difference from the other, then i found out that the S in S-tech stood for style

Originally Posted by RETed

Other good quality aftermarket springs are Racing Beat and Eibach (if you can find these).


-Ted

Eibach is the spring brand that ground control uses, its says so somewhere on the site and the springs have the name on them when i got them. The nice thing about the ground control set up is if you decide later that you want to get stiffer or softer springs you can order the new ones right from eibach, its the same springs they use on their coilovers. and reuse the rest of your suspension components. Also if one component of your system goes bad you can replace that specific part, instead of if a strut goes out on an expensive coilover set you gotta lot more pricey part to replace.

Originally Posted by Max777

IF you price out AGX struts, GC sleeves, and camber plates new, you get roughly $1144.00 without shipping or taxes.

Stance GR+ Coilovers go for $1200, are well designed, and have independent rideheight/spring compression adjustability, so even if you slam your car you still have full shock travel. You can get these with softer spring rates like 8K front 6K rear as well if you are worried about them being too stiff.

See above statement. Also slammed cars are completely impractical for a daily driver. Its a pita to get anywhere. Ask me how i know.........

Originally Posted by Max777

The stock AAS is crap, and should be gutted, the FC does not deserve such a disgrace of a suspension "system".

That was ground breaking technology at the time. Its only crap now because of what you said exactly its 20 years old.

Originally Posted by Max777

People that don't have experience with modding often are very "Superstitious" when it comes to stuff, and worry about stipid shit like those AAS buttons, keeping the intake sleeves on a 6pt system, keeping emissions that down work, etc..... come on, it's a 20 y/o car. I bet once you get some new shocks that actually work, you will forget all about the ass.... I mean aas anyway.

Not wanting useless buttons is hardly a superstition. Its showing care for your car. Taking the sleeves out kills bottom end, and the emissions does work, try passing a smog test without it. Instead of ripping broken parts out and calling it fixed how bout you fix them the right way. Of course its twenty years old, stuff breaks, not cause it sucks or was a poor design but because its old (okay the s4 6port activation system was a poor design, but their are numerous fixes all covered on this site somewhere.)

[infernosg]

^^^ LOL!

Originally Posted by Rx-7fetish

I run ground control on my daily driver and love it. When your order a set of their coilovers they ask you how you drive the car the most and send you springs stiffness according to what you tell them.

Tien S-tech was what i ran before the ground control, i had to use wheel spacers to keep from rubbing, when i took them off i found one of the front springs had sagged a noticeable difference from the other, then i found out that the S in S-tech stood for style

Eibach is the spring brand that ground control uses, its says so somewhere on the site and the springs have the name on them when i got them. The nice thing about the ground control set up is if you decide later that you want to get stiffer or softer springs you can order the new ones right from eibach, its the same springs they use on their coilovers. and reuse the rest of your suspension components. Also if one component of your system goes bad you can replace that specific part, instead of if a strut goes out on an expensive coilover set you gotta lot more pricey part to replace.

See above statement. Also slammed cars are completely impractical for a daily driver. Its a pita to get anywhere. Ask me how i know.........

That was ground breaking technology at the time. Its only crap now because of what you said exactly its 20 years old.

Not wanting useless buttons is hardly a superstition. Its showing care for your car. Taking the sleeves out kills bottom end, and the emissions does work, try passing a smog test without it. Instead of ripping broken parts out and calling it fixed how bout you fix them the right way. Of course its twenty years old, stuff breaks, not cause it sucks or was a poor design but because its old (okay the s4 6port activation system was a poor design, but their are numerous fixes all covered on this site somewhere.)

Definitely good info. Although the GC's are a little more expensive than I was considering the smaller spring diameter is a plus so it is something I am considering. As for slamming the car, that is something I am definitely not out to do. It's becomming more and more the fad to do so but I'm of the mind of a modest drop with more emphasis on performance improvement (ie, no crazy camber, stretched tires, etc.).

The only other thing I can think to comment on is the emissions removal. I was considering it somewhere down the line, but only if there is a "sanitized" version that would allow me to keep the airpump, OMP, BAC, etc. I could care less about the emissions as there is no e-check where I live, but I do not want to overly affect the driveability of a daily driver.