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[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

NICE!

So how do those compare to the RT615 and the NT-01/NT-05? I can't decide.

Nice choice on the sizes

Well the Falken RT615 and the Nitto NT-01/05's are HARDCORE performance tires. Really for track you and light street driving. I would think they perfrom better on dry conditions then these FK-452's . I WAS going to go with Direzza Sport Z1
Star Spec's but they were known for very fast wear BUT extremly sticky for street tires. A little pricey for my budget range.

I went with the 452's for longer tread life then the others listed and a better "wet" performance if I am ever put in the position of rain when on a road trip. I really wanted some Ultra HP tires that will last a little while until I have to shell out another 500 for more rubber. I have came across mixed reviews having to due with road noise but we will see.....most bad reviews were on Hondas for some reason WHILE the good reviews were from many Porsche, Cobra and Corvette owners.

I was actually thinking in the future of the Falken RT615's for a track tire once I pick up a set of cheap 17'' race wheels.

[TitaniumTT]

Cool, thanks man.

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

Well the Falken RT615 and the Nitto NT-01/05's are HARDCORE performance tires. Really for track you and light street driving. I would think they perfrom better on dry conditions then these FK-452's . I WAS going to go with Direzza Sport Z1
Star Spec's but they were known for very fast wear BUT extremly sticky for street tires. A little pricey for my budget range.

Weeeeellllllll I'm a hardcore kinda guy and I plan on using them for auto-x and such. I was pleased with the wear on the RT615's for future reference. I've heard a lot of good things about the Dunlops but I've had bad experiences with their truck tires so I'm kinda leary about them.

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

I went with the 452's for longer tread life then the others listed and a better "wet" performance if I am ever put in the position of rain when on a road trip. I really wanted some Ultra HP tires that will last a little while until I have to shell out another 500 for more rubber. I have came across mixed reviews having to due with road noise but we will see.....most bad reviews were on Hondas for some reason WHILE the good reviews were from many Porsche, Cobra and Corvette owners.

Yeah I hear ya on the wet traction issuue but I ran the Dragon last year in the rain on the RT615's and I was quite pleased with them honestly. I've got no issues running those in the rain which is why I'm not very hesitant to rock some NT-01's for this year.

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

I was actually thinking in the future of the Falken RT615's for a track tire once I pick up a set of cheap 17'' race wheels.

I have a cheap set of 17" rims for sale REALLY light mfer's too..... sooooooo

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Yeah I hear ya on the wet traction issuue but I ran the Dragon last year in the rain on the RT615's and I was quite pleased with them honestly. I've got no issues running those in the rain which is why I'm not very hesitant to rock some NT-01's for this year.

OH YEAH..i totally forgot about the rain at DGRR last year from your pics. Fuck me..that would have been a big factor in my purchase since you really pushed them to the "max" in wet conditions.

[calicrewchief]

You get those wheels mounted yet? Pics!

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by calicrewchief

You get those wheels mounted yet? Pics!

Soon man..very soon. Just waiting on 1 center face to come back from powder coating.

don't expect top-notch dry performance out of them.
The harder rubber should get your good mileage though, but rubber softness (and thus performance) is inversely proportional to mileage.

That is the exact reason I bought them. I want some life out of these. As for grip I have read numerous reviews that said these out perform most UHP tires to include the BFGoodrich G-force sports, Nitto NT555's, Bridgestone Potenza Grids(crazy but found many reviews stating this) and Copper Zeon 2XS.

The only UHP tire that compared that I was up in the air with was the Yokohoma S.Drives....Falkens were cheaper at this outlet I went through so that made a my mind considering I "saved" 120.00.

I HOPE these FK452's do not dissapoint, if they do TRUST me evryone will hear about it.

I really wanted some Yokohoma ADVAN Neova AD08 but they were very very pricey.

[RETed]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

That is the exact reason I bought them. I want some life out of these. As for grip I have read numerous reviews that said these out perform most UHP tires to include the BFGoodrich G-force sports, Nitto NT555's, Bridgestone Potenza Grids(crazy but found many reviews stating this) and Copper Zeon 2XS.

Have zero experience with the B.F. Goodrich stuff, as the only I have personally run was 1st gen Comp T/A's a LONG time ago...

The Nitto NT-555's are CRAP.
Dunno if you know this, but Nitto is the sister company of Toyo.
Toyo "hands down" all their old or second-tier technology to Nitto.
The "NT-555R" is an exception, as these are the old Nitto drag radials - same compound as the Toyo RA-1's.
I have no experience with the new NT-01's.

The Grid's are CRAP.
I've had these, and they are disappointing.
Looking at the prices in Japan, these are not top-tier tires.

Zero experience with Cooper and don't intend to try anything American made anytime soon...

Now, don't take my words personally.
I try to run the best tires on my cars.
I've run Toyo RA-1's and currently have Bridgestone S-03 Pole Positions.
I have a set of Yokohama Advan AD-07's in my room waiting to be mounted.
This gives you an idea of what I think are "good" tires.
All of these are either competition tires or top-tire tires at one time.

Other tires I have direct experience in the past...
Bridgestone RE-71's - best at the time, but super soft compound
Dunlop SP-8000's - liked them a lot for the price and dry performance, but not the best
Yokohama AVS intermediates - didn't care too much for them, but a lot of other people did; I like the Dunlop SP-8000's as a slight edge of the AVSi's
(Above are all discontinued.)
Micheline Pilot Sport SX - nice tire but really expensive!


-Ted

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by RETed

Have zero experience with the B.F. Goodrich stuff, as the only I have personally run was 1st gen Comp T/A's a LONG time ago...

The Nitto NT-555's are CRAP.
Dunno if you know this, but Nitto is the sister company of Toyo.
Toyo "hands down" all their old or second-tier technology to Nitto.
The "NT-555R" is an exception, as these are the old Nitto drag radials - same compound as the Toyo RA-1's.
I have no experience with the new NT-01's.

The Grid's are CRAP.
I've had these, and they are disappointing.
Looking at the prices in Japan, these are not top-tier tires.

Zero experience with Cooper and don't intend to try anything American made anytime soon...

Now, don't take my words personally.
I try to run the best tires on my cars.
I've run Toyo RA-1's and currently have Bridgestone S-03 Pole Positions.
I have a set of Yokohama Advan AD-07's in my room waiting to be mounted.
This gives you an idea of what I think are "good" tires.
All of these are either competition tires or top-tire tires at one time.

Other tires I have direct experience in the past...
Bridgestone RE-71's - best at the time, but super soft compound
Dunlop SP-8000's - liked them a lot for the price and dry performance, but not the best
Yokohama AVS intermediates - didn't care too much for them, but a lot of other people did; I like the Dunlop SP-8000's as a slight edge of the AVSi's
(Above are all discontinued.)
Micheline Pilot Sport SX - nice tire but really expensive!


-Ted

Thanks for the info man! Very appreciated

[RETed]

The FK452's are the old Falken GR-beta's?
I think they are...
These are old tech and don't expect top-notch dry performance out of them.
The harder rubber should get your good mileage though, but rubber softness (and thus performance) is inversely proportional to mileage.
There's a lot better stuff out there, but I'm sure you got a really good price on these.

These can't hold a candle to the RT615's, since the RT615's are almost a (dry) competition tire.

The siping should give you great rain performance though.


-Ted

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by RETed

The FK452's are the old Falken GR-beta's?
I think they are...


-Ted

Actually these are the replcement for the old FK-451's. I guess they have came a long way since the 451's.