17x9+20 with no stretch?

[RETed]

Originally Posted by speedjunkie

And how was he any more offensive or harsh to you guys than you were to him? Especially now with you calling him a bitch?? You're really a big man Ted. I'm not into the FC world just yet, so I don't know everything that you know about FCs, and you do seem very knowledgeable. But I'll be honest, most of what I've seen out of you over the past few years just show you to be a huge prick, but maybe I've just had a hard time reading your personality over the forums. I will admit that Ian was being a tool in some cases too, but it's not like you and others weren't being tools to him too. I know Ian not just over the internet but in person and he's a good guy. I would imagine you guys are good guys in person too, but several in this thread and argument (including Ian) have shown themselves to be douchebags over the internet LOL. Not that you guys or Ian are like that on the internet/forums all the time, because I've seen otherwise, that's just how it seems in this case haha.

Sorry to rehash this, but I find this kinda funny...
(Most of you guys who know me well enough know why...)

I think you're an FD owner?
You don't know how much restaint it took to pound out those replies.
My old M.O. was to just flame away, but I've started to include some gist of a technical reply just to make things a little bit more palatable.
If that small tiff offends you...you should go find some of my old shit which I do not hold back...

Just remember, I only started to call him a "bitch" cause he brought up "dicks hard" and "pussy wet".
I dunno about you, but I have a hard time giving anyone who uses those terms so...loosely...any credit or respect, irregardless how he is in person.

As for the topic...
There's several points being missed here still.
1) Lip profile - not all wheels run the same lip profile. Remember, "rim width" is definied by (loosely) the width (inside) the wheel that is between tire bead to tire bead. This allows a great variation of lip profile that protrude after that. I've taken pics (evil forum) of a (17" x) 8" wide, +30 using a 6mm bolt shank for clearance. I really don't like running anything under 6mm of clearance for street use; no, I don't like running 10kg-mm+ springs on the street. This extrapolates to a 9", +18 for the same clearance. Add that 6mm of clearance, and you get your 9", +24.
Could this fit? Possibly.
Could this fit ALL wheels? I doubt it.
For a 9", +20, this will fit giving you about 4mm of clearance.
This is way too tight for ME.
Now, this is assuming NORMAL tire to wheel mountings.
Run hippari stretch, and you can get ultra close to the insides and not worry about the tire "sidewall" contacting anything.
9" can run a full 255 wide tire.
IMNSHO, running narrower than 255 on a 9.0" wide wheel is a waste of time - see below.
Can you run a 255 wide tire in front on an FC with stock front fenders - NO, unless your definition of a "fender pull" is over an inch!
Thus, IMNSHO, running a 9.0" wide wheel up front under stock fenders is a royal waste of time.

2) Going back to stabilizer bars and balance... The (full) effect of the stabilizer bars balance is due to load. Dori bitches don't induce full load on most stabilizer bars systems due to the nature of the driving. (Don't need to explain this to everyone, right?) Thus, trying to compare GRIP versus DRIFT performance when it comes to identical stabilizer bars set-up's is a royal waste of time.

That iani-guy-whatever already admited he's trying to drift an "underpowered" car.
Why burden an already down-on-power set-up by running bigger / heavier-that-necessary wheels?
I don't get it.
Running smaller / lighter wheels would gain you better unsprung weight and rotational mass performance, but no...gotta look pretty for the drift kiddies...
This is why it puzzles me that josh18_2k - who I thought was a real racer - was defending such a set-up and then defends his comments are purely a clearance issue?
Hey, you're running a V8-powered FC that warrants such big rubber - no argument here.
So you're saying that because you can run 285's, that we all should too?

(I think I had too much turkey...)


-Ted