Widebands

[vex]

Originally Posted by NoDOHC

Unfortunately Vex, you are too right. Not all of us have the infinite budget to spend on out hobby cars.

However, I have heard from two trusted sources (in real life, not on the internet - as Peter so despises) that the NTK sensors are considerably more robust.

I actually only use the wideband for tuning, I typically will either run open loop or throw in a narrow band after tuning for closed-loop operation. My AEM wideband worked for tuning many different cars.

Unfortunately, It developed a significant error over the years (about 2 AFR). What I thought was stoic was actually about 12.8:1. The inability to free-air calibrate allows for this drift.

The LC-1 allows free-air calibration, but how do we know that any calibration is accurate? Besides sending out the unit to be qualified I have no idea how to test it.

[My5ABaby]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

Innovate is a toy nothing more,

Put it in your dump pipe and you can count how long it will last in seconds.

Real pro's use NTK, everything else is junk, pure and simple.

The ONLY Bosch sensor that is acceptable on a rotary is the good old LSM-11 (which wsa originally designed for coal combustion furnaces) they are bullit proof and the most durable sensor around.

Although I did open up the discussion to all widebands, maybe we can say ones that are affordable for 95% of the board. However, if someday I get the money to go all out, I will definitely consider the Neko.