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Old 03-27-2011, 05:41 AM   #1
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WHAT A TOTAL IDIOT !!!
WONDER WHY BDC HAS SUCH A FOLLOWING WITH TOTAL MORON'S LIKE THIS FLOG POSTING CRAP LIKE THIS!!!!
Well, his screen name is Lawyer and not Engineer. Anyway, I especially like how he says that "water DOES NOT flow like air".

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I openly blame BDC and HC for brain washing (whatever brains are left) of these types of IDIOTS who frequent that forum, searching for advice! IT NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN or at minimum derided at every opportunity so newbies are not scammed into reading their dribble let alone thinking their "advice" is based on any type of reality.
I think they both mean well. As for the idiots who frequent that forum, they are mostly the Generation-Y folks who aren't going to listen to an engineer anyway. They want "proof", whatever that means. I don't even bother posting in the "AI" section because I know that it would be a waste of time. I figure that they will get what is coming to them.

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There is no such terminology as AI! I have never ever herd of that until those DUMB AND DUMBER CUNTS named HC and BDC started shitting on and on and on and on and on about it and themselves!
AI is Artificial Intelligence, which I suppose could control the injection. Had they any engineering background they would know that "AI" has been called ADI at least since the 1930's. I mentioned this when they were talking about making a sub-forum, but nobody listened to me, as usual. Now I am waiting for a "Turbo-Compounding" sub-forum from the laymen who think that means feeding one turbo into another.
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:24 AM   #2
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Now I am waiting for a "Turbo-Compounding" sub-forum from the laymen who think that means feeding one turbo into another.
I was about to put a foot in my mouth... but why on earth would they switch the two words? Do they not realize that a compound turbo set up is different than a turbo compound setup?
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:14 AM   #3
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to the moderators and Peter.

this is generally a good site. If Peter and other members keep making threads like this and disrespecting people in general. this site will also go to hell. Peter I understand we all have our opinions, and so do you. but who gives a fuck about what brian or howard are saying or doing. if people listen and follow that is their choice. and if they will to do so, who the fuck are you or any of us to say any different? to the moderators, don't let this site go to shit with threads like this one peter has started. where is the moderating at?
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There's a thread in The Lounge which might better explain the situation...

Now, there's an ADMIN in this thread present, so I will default action to the higher up's at this point.

I've said it before, although I don't condone RICE RACING's words, I do understand his frustation.
This is starting to look like the BDC thread in The Lounge...

And, Mr. Ito, as an option, you're welcome to use the Ignore (member) function (located in the User CP drop down menu at the top of this page) available to every member of this forum to prevent seeing RICE RACING's posts.


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There's a thread in The Lounge which might better explain the situation...

Now, there's an ADMIN in this thread present, so I will default action to the higher up's at this point.

I've said it before, although I don't condone RICE RACING's words, I do understand his frustation.
This is starting to look like the BDC thread in The Lounge...

And, Mr. Ito, as an option, you're welcome to use the Ignore (member) function (located in the User CP drop down menu at the top of this page) available to every member of this forum to prevent seeing RICE RACING's posts.


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ted, it's not about ignoring peter/rice, it's about not letting this good site go to shits.
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I was about to put a foot in my mouth... but why on earth would they switch the two words? Do they not realize that a compound turbo set up is different than a turbo compound setup?
See, this is exactly what RICE RACING is complaining about. The idiots have now confused you by using incorrect, made-up terminology. I would like to point out that the latest iteration of this ignorance made its way from this forum to rx7club.com, so it does work both ways.

When one compressor feeds into another it is called "staging". The setup is usually described in numbers of stages. For example, one compressor feeding into another is called "2-stage", 7 inline compressors are called "7-stage", and so on. Therefore, if you had an engine with one compressor feeding into another, you would describe your setup as a "2-stage turbocharged engine" and you would describe the method as "2-stage turbocharging", or more generically as "staged turbocharging" or simply "staging".

Garrett on staging:
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...esel_tech.html

Borg Warner's regulated 2-stage turbo system:
http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/products/r2s.aspx
http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/tools/d...nt&r=106&d=107

Garrett TPE331 engine shows the design differences between the high and low compressor stages (painted blue in the cut-away picture). The resulting compression ratio was 8:1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_AiResearch_TPE-331

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There's a thread in The Lounge which might better explain the situation...
Where is The Lounge? I haven't seen it in about a year now, so I figured it was deleted.

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See, this is exactly what RICE RACING is complaining about. The idiots have now confused you by using incorrect, made-up terminology.

When one compressor feeds into another it is called "staging". The setup is usually described in numbers of stages. For example, one compressor feeding into another is called "2-stage", 7 inline compressors are called "7-stage", and so on. Therefore, if you had an engine with one compressor feeding into another, you would describe your setup as a "2-stage turbocharged engine" and you would describe the method as "2-stage turbocharging", or more generically as "staged turbocharging" or simply "staging".

Garrett on staging:
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...esel_tech.html

Borg Warner's regulated 2-stage turbo system:
http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/products/r2s.aspx
http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/tools/d...nt&r=106&d=107

Garrett TPE331 engine shows the design differences between the high and low compressor stages (painted blue in the cut-away picture). The resulting compression ratio was 8:1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_AiResearch_TPE-331


Where is The Lounge? I haven't seen it in about a year now, so I figured it was deleted.
To be fair however, even academia refers to the above as compound turbocharging of a system (at least in Marine Engineering--but then again, I take what that professor says with a heavy dose of salt for just about everything that comes out of his mouth).

Scroll all the way to the bottom of the main forum.
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See, this is exactly what RICE RACING is complaining about. The idiots have now confused you by using incorrect, made-up terminology.

When one compressor feeds into another it is called "staging". The setup is usually described in numbers of stages. For example, one compressor feeding into another is called "2-stage", 7 inline compressors are called "7-stage", and so on. Therefore, if you had an engine with one compressor feeding into another, you would describe your setup as a "2-stage turbocharged engine" and you would describe the method as "2-stage turbocharging", or more generically as "staged turbocharging" or simply "staging".

Garrett on staging:
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...esel_tech.html

Borg Warner's regulated 2-stage turbo system:
http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/products/r2s.aspx
http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/tools/d...nt&r=106&d=107

Garrett TPE331 engine shows the design differences between the high and low compressor stages (painted blue in the cut-away picture). The resulting compression ratio was 8:1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_AiResearch_TPE-331


Where is The Lounge? I haven't seen it in about a year now, so I figured it was deleted.
I have a book called auto math. talks about tractor pulling.. tractor was making over 245lbs of boost. 3 turbo's. 1 turbo feeding boost into the second turbo and the second turbo feeding into the 3rd turbo.. 3rd turbo feeding the 245lbs of boost to the diesel engine. they also show a picture of the engine granading into pieces.... insane to say the least..
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To be fair however, even academia refers to the above as compound turbocharging of a system (at least in Marine Engineering--but then again, I take what that professor says with a heavy dose of salt for just about everything that comes out of his mouth).
It has been called staging for over 100 years now, lol. Maybe your marine professor just liked using redneck terms? I had one who would use redneck terms as a joke.

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Scroll all the way to the bottom of the main forum.
Live Chat and Video? After that I am just seeing forum stats and random album pictures.

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I have a book called auto math. talks about tractor pulling.. tractor was making over 245lbs of boost. 3 turbo's. 1 turbo feeding boost into the second turbo and the second turbo feeding into the 3rd turbo.. 3rd turbo feeding the 245lbs of boost to the diesel engine. they also show a picture of the engine granading into pieces.... insane to say the least..
Yes, it's insane, especially considering that Buchi was running 71psig back in 1909.
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