Water to air intercoolers.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Mazdabater

Yeah, he had it fitting in his FD fine. Assuming there is the same amount of space between the engine and rad in my FC I should be fine. Planning on mounting the rad, making the CAI and ducting the brakes at the same time. Should be fun lol

One one tuning trip to Brisbane I did a comp test on a Mazfux car (Green FD) and it was a bridge piss port with a water to air barrel fitted in there, I remember it was a total **** as I had to pull apart half the car to get the spark plugs (hence my loathing of those coolers lol).

It had no comp on the rear rotor btw, he took it back to mazfux under warranty, they managed to fuck it with a run in tune and banana seals lol.....

made dick all power with the barrel, he was circuit racing it n shit, it was a pretty gay set up all in all.

[Mazdabater]

Lol, for the price I got it for I'm sure I can sell it and break even. I'm running a 200 dollar chinese front mount at the moment. I'll upload the pic of how it was installed in this FD. Mine should run pretty similar although he gave me some of the brackets and they are shithouse. (Could just be me being fussy because I make aircraft brackets for a living)

[Mazdabater]

The piping on the outlet side of it is 3.5" to give you a size reference

[RICE RACING]

I worked on that car at Superlap!

He did 344rwkw (dynapack) on 19psi boost with a 1.30 A/R on center T04Z, mild port.

His name is Shane, not a bad bloke for a Sheep Rooter **** from NZ *he is a mate of mine!*

[Mazdabater]

Ah right so it can't be that bad then lol. Went and measured my s4 just then as that pic scared me because the rad seems closer to the front in an FD, gonna be a pretty tight squeeze but I should get it. I'm running a proboost t04z with an extend port so hoping for a bit over 300rwkw lets hope I get there.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Mazdabater

Ah right so it can't be that bad then lol. Went and measured my s4 just then as that pic scared me because the rad seems closer to the front in an FD, gonna be a pretty tight squeeze but I should get it. I'm running a proboost t04z with an extend port so hoping for a bit over 300rwkw lets hope I get there.

You will do that too easily! I would tell you what I make but I have far too many internet stalkers who hang on my every bit of data and idea's lest we say I make a great deal MORE than what your goal is and all on a stock std SP intercooler

I did a comparison to the Mazda Capella I helped a mate develop (600rwhp car ~450rwkw) and from 110kph to 150kph (5800rpm to 8000rpm), peak power band for his car (no wheel spin in 3rd either) my RICESP basically matches it (using exactly the same rpm and gearing!).......

I run a charge temperature of ~40deg C on (moderate boost lol) see my boost thread (though I managed to equal the Capella 3rd gear accel using much lower boost!) the key thing I will tell you again is the chamber pressure profile under high power levels is your killer.

IF though you are only aiming for ~300rwkw range as measured on a dynohomodynamics used in 3R shitout mode. Then you can achieve this very very easily with the right tuning its only when you step it up to BIG supercar levels of power while retaining engine durability that it gets a bit tricky .................. and there are FUCK ALL people on the planet who know how to make road going rotaries live at this level on proper petrol (or even poofter MAD MAX "carry it in drums" sprog juice.

[Mazdabater]

Yeah, would like a little more but it's a street car that I want to have a bit of fun in occasionally. I'm aiming for more power at less boost. Going to the next level is always a possibility with me, as when I brought the car I wanted a standard one with an exhaust for a bit of fun.Probably going to think about WI as well if this doesn't do it for me, not so much for power but reliability. Not so much worried about the power level, but actual performance would love to be able to get the car into the 11's down at the strip and have it responsive enough to start doing the hill climbs here. Basically want something I can thrash the piss out of and know it's not going to be stressing it too much, don't mind spending a bit more cash to make it more reliable.


Currently thinking about getting one of these too, but figure I should get the car running before I spend any more money on it.

http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com...?pid=17&step=4

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Mazdabater

Yeah, would like a little more but it's a street car that I want to have a bit of fun in occasionally. I'm aiming for more power at less boost. Going to the next level is always a possibility with me, as when I brought the car I wanted a standard one with an exhaust for a bit of fun.Probably going to think about WI as well if this doesn't do it for me, not so much for power but reliability. Not so much worried about the power level, but actual performance would love to be able to get the car into the 11's down at the strip and have it responsive enough to start doing the hill climbs here. Basically want something I can thrash the piss out of and know it's not going to be stressing it too much, don't mind spending a bit more cash to make it more reliable.


Currently thinking about getting one of these too, but figure I should get the car running before I spend any more money on it.

http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com...?pid=17&step=4

Yeah I hear you

Anything much over 300rwkw as measured on the homo standard and its really a time bomb without WI (regardless of charge temperature) you can measure the seals bending in seconds and minutes rather than hours and 10's of thousands of km's especially if you have no idea how to cool the engine internally to make the apex seals live.

It will be interesting to see how you get alone, remember your aircraft roots

If you need some help just ask

[Mazdabater]

Yeah well I brought the EGT's to make sure I got an idea of when shits going bad so it doesn't blow up lol. In saying that I have no idea what safe EGT's are, I heard lots of tuners tune differently. Not sure what I'm going to do about tuning it now, mate thats helping me build the engine now works at mazfix so I may get him to tune it there. I know he has a pretty good idea, not a fan of anywhere else in QLD lol. No muppet in townsville is ever tuning it again

[RICE RACING]

Well I retract my offer of help now LOL !!!

[Mazdabater]

Wait are you in QLD? I thought you were down south?

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Mazdabater

Wait are you in QLD? I thought you were down south?

I am in Victoria, but I go all over Australia and the world to tune cars, I came back from UAE over Christmas tuning and am off the Perth soon again......

QLD have not been there is a while, but a friend who owns a shop there is organizing a batch of cars for me to tune again apparently.

[redbullstx]

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As far as water to air intercoolers go i have one on my drag/streetcar and it works better than i could have ever expected. With back to back 3rd gear pulls on the street my AIT never got over 110 degrees. The motor would get up to 200 with around 85 degree ambient temperature with AIT's at 110 or less the entire time. I would say thats pretty impressive. My core is 4x4x8 with a 24x12" heat exchanger. I dont know how it would hold up to being run hard for hours at a time but in my experience they work very well. I am seriously considering running one on my FD as well.

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