280rwhp@9lbs of boost, stock turbo,stock ecu - Page 6

N.RotaryTech · 11-05-2011, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judge Ito

drama queen? if you only knew who you are talking too. far from that.. ted has been a hater for ages all over sites.

Ok, correction: a temper tantrum throwing child.

I would like to review this last pages posts, deleted ones and all.

It all started with Ted deleting some harmless posts.
Yes Ted was wrong to do that.

*What you could have done* was contact Ted and or the admins of this site and professionally discussed the deleted posts issue. I'm sure they would be undeleted and the thread would go on. They were harmless posts after all.

But instead you started getting all upset at Ted, then through PM's with the admins of this site, you blew up.
TTT posted some of those PM's which showed your childlike and unprofessional behavior.

So you post again, saying screw this site and Ted, when the posts you've posted got you in this situation.

More childlike behavior.

Judge Ito · 11-20-2011, 08:13 PM

NEW PERSONAL BEST... 12.46@109.72 MPH

Judge Ito · 11-20-2011, 08:14 PM

NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO THE CAR.. just more track time for drivers...

TheDriver216 · 11-20-2011, 11:22 PM

Grats

GoopyPerformance · 11-21-2011, 07:09 AM

After being there myself and seeing it with my own eyes I would like to congratulate Judge Ito and his daughters for great driving skills in running 12.6 twice and the 12.4 run..

On her last run if she did not miss 3rd it was for sure a 12.3 run.

She has a great approach at launching where she purposely slips the clutch and spins no tire.. Wonder how much longer that stock turbo can take.

Great Job

Judge Ito · 12-08-2011, 08:00 AM

1.6 on the 60ft mark..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lXkueXMGJY

Judge Ito · 12-08-2011, 08:05 AM

Sierra 12.6@108mph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDTo0_jWMh8

Judge Ito · 12-08-2011, 08:07 AM

Sierra 12.4@109

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLdO34lPZ4Y

Judge Ito · 12-08-2011, 08:12 AM

1.6....

NoDOHC · 01-27-2012, 10:10 PM

Judge, what AFR are you running? Your engine appears to be running pretty lean to put down that kind of power. Working with turbo engines at work every day, I have no trouble believing this power number and the drag strip times, but I do wonder if the engine is riding the razor edge of being damaged with a lean AFR and the stock intercooler.

Basically, I doubt that this much power was made rich of 12:1 and it was probably closer to 12.5:1. This is not a terrible idea, but it is a bit risky.

Please don't let Ted get to you, he is very blunt, but he has a lot of experience and it certainly is not to be discounted. The question that he asked was valid, he just asked it in an aggravating way.

It would seem that you have an excellent-condition stock turbo to hold 9 psi to 7500 rpm on a ported engine. What are you running for exhaust? How aggressive is the port work?
Is the porting a trade secret, or can you provide pictures?

Judge Ito · 01-28-2012, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoDOHC

Judge, what AFR are you running? Your engine appears to be running pretty lean to put down that kind of power. Working with turbo engines at work every day, I have no trouble believing this power number and the drag strip times, but I do wonder if the engine is riding the razor edge of being damaged with a lean AFR and the stock intercooler.

Basically, I doubt that this much power was made rich of 12:1 and it was probably closer to 12.5:1. This is not a terrible idea, but it is a bit risky.

Please don't let Ted get to you, he is very blunt, but he has a lot of experience and it certainly is not to be discounted. The question that he asked was valid, he just asked it in an aggravating way.

It would seem that you have an excellent-condition stock turbo to hold 9 psi to 7500 rpm on a ported engine. What are you running for exhaust? How aggressive is the port work?
Is the porting a trade secret, or can you provide pictures?

I didnt come here to argue with TED or anybody else, I came here to relax and share some real world results. shit that has been tested and proven. wether is 700+rwhp or in this case 280rwhp. to answer your question, 12 to1 or 12.5 to 1 is way to lean on a turbo charged rotary engine. you could do it but it's asking for trouble.. in this set-up. car dynoed the hp @ 11.2 to 1 air fuel ratio. this site is a piece of shit.. so if ur looking to carry on with questions. nopistons.com is my home. i also have this thread over there..

Sharingan 19 · 01-30-2012, 07:51 PM

Aww, c'mon don't leave. you have 40 people congradulate you on some very impressive results and let the 2 doubters run you away? If you're right you're right.

Admitadly first though was to be skeptical when I saw the numbers, simply because 10 psi on a stock turbo usually only nets 220-230 whp (but that is usually on stock ports). However I've seen the type of port work you do on my friend's Alex's engine and if I stock turbo could hold 9 psi on those ports I have every confidence that these are authentic results.

AnthonyNYC · 01-31-2012, 07:18 AM

Ito, great results and congrats. I've seen this car in person and it runs! I got the same doubt years ago going 11.1 on stock FD twins and making 390HP because it did not add up and I did it with a stock ECU since the PFC was not available. Everyone doubted it but now you have guys in the high 10s with stock twins.

There are guys that calculate and analyze all the metrics and go on and on. The fast guys are not the ones that sit behind a PC and talk about the results of their calculations. You guys have to remember Ito was out there YEARS ago making power without turbos and expensive ECUs. You learn a LOT from that kind of experience. When racers were running NA 13Bs, apex seals were limited, no fancy parts no high tech ECU's, you're talking carbs and jetting and some headers, that's when great engine building and porting was your edge. There were no forums, maybe a big rx7 list but we knew who were the fast guys back then. Fast forward 10 or 15 years later, these guys will still have an edge. Keep up the good work Ito and keep posting the results!!!

Anthony

RETed · 01-31-2012, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judge Ito

this site is a piece of shit.. so if ur looking to carry on with questions. nopistons.com is my home. i also have this thread over there..

Since you offered the invitation...

You still have to unnecessarily swear and insult others?
If you are going to insist on your poor attitude and can't objectively post without keeping your attitude against me (and others you don't like) out of it, I would rather have you leave and stick with other places who can swallow your negative side.

I would normally take out all the unnecessary bits and pieces, but you'd just give me crap for that.
I'll leave the last few replies just so others understand what's going on.

I'll take all criticism in PM's.
This thread is done for.

-Ted

01-27-2012, 10:10 PM	#85
NoDOHC The quest for more torque Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sheboygan, Wisconsin Posts: 855 Rep Power: 17	Judge, what AFR are you running? Your engine appears to be running pretty lean to put down that kind of power. Working with turbo engines at work every day, I have no trouble believing this power number and the drag strip times, but I do wonder if the engine is riding the razor edge of being damaged with a lean AFR and the stock intercooler. Basically, I doubt that this much power was made rich of 12:1 and it was probably closer to 12.5:1. This is not a terrible idea, but it is a bit risky. Please don't let Ted get to you, he is very blunt, but he has a lot of experience and it certainly is not to be discounted. The question that he asked was valid, he just asked it in an aggravating way. It would seem that you have an excellent-condition stock turbo to hold 9 psi to 7500 rpm on a ported engine. What are you running for exhaust? How aggressive is the port work? Is the porting a trade secret, or can you provide pictures? __________________ 1986 GXL ('87 4-port NA - Haltech E8, LS2 Coils. Defined Autoworks Headers, Dual 2.5" Exhaust (Dual Superflow, dBX mufflers) 1991 Coupe (KYB AGX Shocks, Eibach lowering springs, RB exhaust, Stock and Automatic)

01-31-2012, 07:18 AM	#88
AnthonyNYC Self built and tuned... Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: West Islip, Long Island NY Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Ito, great results and congrats. I've seen this car in person and it runs! I got the same doubt years ago going 11.1 on stock FD twins and making 390HP because it did not add up and I did it with a stock ECU since the PFC was not available. Everyone doubted it but now you have guys in the high 10s with stock twins. There are guys that calculate and analyze all the metrics and go on and on. The fast guys are not the ones that sit behind a PC and talk about the results of their calculations. You guys have to remember Ito was out there YEARS ago making power without turbos and expensive ECUs. You learn a LOT from that kind of experience. When racers were running NA 13Bs, apex seals were limited, no fancy parts no high tech ECU's, you're talking carbs and jetting and some headers, that's when great engine building and porting was your edge. There were no forums, maybe a big rx7 list but we knew who were the fast guys back then. Fast forward 10 or 15 years later, these guys will still have an edge. Keep up the good work Ito and keep posting the results!!! Anthony __________________ 10.32@139MPH Stock Tranny, Stock ports, Electromotive TEC3. Self built motor and self tuned. In addition to competition engine rebuilds, also specialize in tuning, upgrades and installs. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3&l=e811d7ccaf

11-20-2011, 08:13 PM	#77
Judge Ito Porting Master Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Jersey, USA Posts: 154 Rep Power: 17	NEW PERSONAL BEST... 12.46@109.72 MPH

11-20-2011, 08:14 PM	#78
Judge Ito Porting Master Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Jersey, USA Posts: 154 Rep Power: 17	NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE TO THE CAR.. just more track time for drivers...

11-20-2011, 11:22 PM	#79
TheDriver216 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 159 Rep Power: 18	Grats

11-21-2011, 07:09 AM	#80
GoopyPerformance Rotary parts manufacture Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Stony point NY Posts: 170 Rep Power: 15	After being there myself and seeing it with my own eyes I would like to congratulate Judge Ito and his daughters for great driving skills in running 12.6 twice and the 12.4 run.. On her last run if she did not miss 3rd it was for sure a 12.3 run. She has a great approach at launching where she purposely slips the clutch and spins no tire.. Wonder how much longer that stock turbo can take. Great Job

12-08-2011, 08:00 AM	#81
Judge Ito Porting Master Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Jersey, USA Posts: 154 Rep Power: 17	1.6 on the 60ft mark.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lXkueXMGJY

12-08-2011, 08:05 AM	#82
Judge Ito Porting Master Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Jersey, USA Posts: 154 Rep Power: 17	Sierra 12.6@108mph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDTo0_jWMh8

12-08-2011, 08:07 AM	#83
Judge Ito Porting Master Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Jersey, USA Posts: 154 Rep Power: 17	Sierra 12.4@109 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLdO34lPZ4Y

01-30-2012, 07:51 PM	#87
Sharingan 19 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 138 Rep Power: 15	Aww, c'mon don't leave. you have 40 people congradulate you on some very impressive results and let the 2 doubters run you away? If you're right you're right. Admitadly first though was to be skeptical when I saw the numbers, simply because 10 psi on a stock turbo usually only nets 220-230 whp (but that is usually on stock ports). However I've seen the type of port work you do on my friend's Alex's engine and if I stock turbo could hold 9 psi on those ports I have every confidence that these are authentic results.