s5 TII vert stock block/turbo 242.6whp and 250ftlb tq

FerociousP · 04-17-2012, 11:13 AM

Didn't see a "dyno" section so I'll just post it here

A little on the car

Autox vids - http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=14841
Semi-build thread - http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=14571

Engine info:
Stock block s5 t2 jspec
stock s5 turbo (wastegate is not ported to my knowledge)
Haltech Sprint RE
Injector Dynamics ID1000 x4
Denso aftermarket Supra/FD pump
Parallel setup with Aeromotive FPR and pushlock hose, 42psi base
FMIC
Synchronic BOV
FD alt

I found some time on the dyno at Bean's Diesel Performance in Woodbury, TN. They use a twin eddy Dyno Dynamics mostly used on big Diesel trucks and what not run by a great guy names Jonathan. They let us basically run our own operation and aside from loading the dyno and messing with graphs just let us do our own thing. I gotta give credit to Jacob Cartmill for most of the tuning (especially on the street). Anyway, we put the car up there and to be honest we didn't really tune very much up top. Afrs looked good/rich and the stock turbo just wasn't going to do much for peak power. Aside from the pulls we mostly played with the transistion with the dyno locked and richening up low rpm boost. We raised the MBC to about 13psi and gained a good bit in the low/mid range. The stock turbo bleeds down to 8psi by 7k... it just can't keep up. Once the turbo started dropping off power leveled off pretty quickly. We raised timing one degree past 4k and 10psi and we only got 1-2 hp so we left it alone. Its still conservative by some standards. I've posted a project file of most of my datalogs if anyone is curious.

Link to Haltech Platinum Datalogs of dyno runs and street runs
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1MMiFhhNuOgMWREbWp6VnkwWXM

The pics showing data are not necessarily from the same run, just ones I happened to take

Sorry for the crappy vid. Forgot to charge the GoPro and had to use cellphone with bad lighting

One of these is not like the other.

85rx-7gsl-se · 04-17-2012, 11:21 AM

Not bad paul.

rx7 vinnie · 04-17-2012, 12:38 PM

Nice......

My5ABaby · 04-17-2012, 01:04 PM

Talk about odd man out lol.... It looks like your car is there for them to go all monster truck on.

Thumper · 04-17-2012, 06:15 PM

What intercooler are you running?

FerociousP · 04-17-2012, 07:23 PM

Ebay from the looks of it. just a bar and plate about 3in thick amd I painted it black. most of it is actually inside the bumper. only using about 1/3 of it sadly

My5ABaby · 04-18-2012, 08:15 AM

What did the diesel guys think of your car?

FerociousP · 04-18-2012, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My5ABaby

What did the diesel guys think of your car?

They were real nice guys but it was like another world to them. Their tuner, Jonathan, mainly works with diesels but also does hondas and nissans. They noted how small the turbo was and when we asked them to donate one for the cause they said the only way they'd do it is if it was a compound setup, lol. I'd def take it there again, very relaxed and respectful attitudes.

My5ABaby · 04-18-2012, 11:04 AM

How small the turbo was.

Pfff, it's pretty snazzy when you think it's on a 1.3L engine as opposed to 7L. It's also not about the size...

I'll have to go there someday when I get off my ass and turbo my car. Or just go e85 to see if it makes a difference N/A.

GySgtFrank · 04-19-2012, 10:38 PM

Good information FerociousP. I've often wondered just what a stock block and turbo could do if given the proper supporting and tuning hardware

almoststockfc · 04-20-2012, 02:50 AM

It sucks we cant see the "race of the year" on the way back from the gap.. will be pullin the hercules.. o well

04-17-2012, 11:13 AM	#1
FerociousP I-had-a-bad-experience... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: M'boro Posts: 1,046 Rep Power: 19	s5 TII vert stock block/turbo 242.6whp and 250ftlb tq Didn't see a "dyno" section so I'll just post it here A little on the car Autox vids - http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=14841 Semi-build thread - http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=14571 Engine info: Stock block s5 t2 jspec stock s5 turbo (wastegate is not ported to my knowledge) Haltech Sprint RE Injector Dynamics ID1000 x4 Denso aftermarket Supra/FD pump Parallel setup with Aeromotive FPR and pushlock hose, 42psi base FMIC Synchronic BOV FD alt I found some time on the dyno at Bean's Diesel Performance in Woodbury, TN. They use a twin eddy Dyno Dynamics mostly used on big Diesel trucks and what not run by a great guy names Jonathan. They let us basically run our own operation and aside from loading the dyno and messing with graphs just let us do our own thing. I gotta give credit to Jacob Cartmill for most of the tuning (especially on the street). Anyway, we put the car up there and to be honest we didn't really tune very much up top. Afrs looked good/rich and the stock turbo just wasn't going to do much for peak power. Aside from the pulls we mostly played with the transistion with the dyno locked and richening up low rpm boost. We raised the MBC to about 13psi and gained a good bit in the low/mid range. The stock turbo bleeds down to 8psi by 7k... it just can't keep up. Once the turbo started dropping off power leveled off pretty quickly. We raised timing one degree past 4k and 10psi and we only got 1-2 hp so we left it alone. Its still conservative by some standards. I've posted a project file of most of my datalogs if anyone is curious. Link to Haltech Platinum Datalogs of dyno runs and street runs https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1MMiFhhNuOgMWREbWp6VnkwWXM The pics showing data are not necessarily from the same run, just ones I happened to take Sorry for the crappy vid. Forgot to charge the GoPro and had to use cellphone with bad lighting One of these is not like the other. __________________ '15 Juke Nismo '06 MX-5 GT SOLD '04 S Silver RX-8 GT Track Day Use SOLD '90 Black TII vert w/ Sprint RE stock port/turbo DD dyno (242.6whp@5500rpm @12psi 8psi@redline) and (250ftlbtq@4800rpm @13psi) SOLD '89 GTUs 6p TII SOLD, '87 sport SOLD, '79 SA stock SOLD '91 B2600i 4x4 w/ Rx-8 LSD SOLD Last edited by FerociousP; 04-17-2012 at 01:34 PM.

04-17-2012, 12:38 PM	#3
rx7 vinnie I SEE DEAD PEOPLE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: nashville, tn (antioch) Posts: 743 Rep Power: 18	Nice...... __________________ VIN-AUTO Rotary list of Fails below: 86 mazda rx7 csp 61 N/A= because RACECAR 87 mazda rx7 t2 with 13b-re cosmo GT42= FKN RUNS!!! 03 Dodge Viper SRT-10 Vert 06 dodge ram 2500 Megacab turbo Cummins=puller 16 MB ML350

04-17-2012, 01:04 PM	#4
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 20	Talk about odd man out lol.... It looks like your car is there for them to go all monster truck on. __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

04-17-2012, 07:23 PM	#6
FerociousP I-had-a-bad-experience... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: M'boro Posts: 1,046 Rep Power: 19	Ebay from the looks of it. just a bar and plate about 3in thick amd I painted it black. most of it is actually inside the bumper. only using about 1/3 of it sadly __________________ '15 Juke Nismo '06 MX-5 GT SOLD '04 S Silver RX-8 GT Track Day Use SOLD '90 Black TII vert w/ Sprint RE stock port/turbo DD dyno (242.6whp@5500rpm @12psi 8psi@redline) and (250ftlbtq@4800rpm @13psi) SOLD '89 GTUs 6p TII SOLD, '87 sport SOLD, '79 SA stock SOLD '91 B2600i 4x4 w/ Rx-8 LSD SOLD

04-18-2012, 08:15 AM	#7
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 20	What did the diesel guys think of your car? __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

04-17-2012, 06:15 PM	#5
Thumper Backyard Mechanic Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 50 Rep Power: 15	What intercooler are you running?

04-18-2012, 11:04 AM	#9
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 20	How small the turbo was. Pfff, it's pretty snazzy when you think it's on a 1.3L engine as opposed to 7L. It's also not about the size... I'll have to go there someday when I get off my ass and turbo my car. Or just go e85 to see if it makes a difference N/A. __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

04-19-2012, 10:38 PM	#10
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	Good information FerociousP. I've often wondered just what a stock block and turbo could do if given the proper supporting and tuning hardware __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

04-20-2012, 02:50 AM	#11
almoststockfc ..... Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 543 Rep Power: 16	It sucks we cant see the "race of the year" on the way back from the gap.. will be pullin the hercules.. o well __________________ -75 RE_W_PU - -76 Hercules W2000 - DGRR 2012 3rd place Old School -75 Hercules W2000 MSO - DGRR 2011 Peoples Choice - April 2011 Rotary of the Month -Rotary snowmobile powered go kart - DGRR 2012 Peoples Choice - RIP