It looked so simple at first! - Page 4

2gslse · 01-13-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

Thanks 85turbo12a. It's nowhere near the quality of yours or 2gslse's build, but it's been fun. The rear suspension was supposed to be the easy part, but whadda I know? What else am I going to do anyway?

DGRR '13: Invasion of the silver 1stGens.

I think your car is a very high quality build and very original, eventually I will need to do some major work to the rear to allow it to hook up and handle well. Just think I will have an egg under my foot on the dragon and you will be able to flat foot it all the way with the traction available. How many silver FB's you think will be there?

GySgtFrank · 01-13-2013, 11:18 AM

If we ever got them perfect, we'd probably be so bored we'd have to get a different project anyway. I like riding the edge of traction in corners so ironing out the suspension was a priority for me. Donuts are fun, but not when you run into stuff.

I thought about using my 8.8, but the added unsprung weight was prohibitive. I plan on staying with the rotary so the GSL-SE rear should handle most power levels I'm likely to achieve. I can see where it's an absolute necessity with the power and torque yours will be putting down though. From what I've read the SE rears are fine up to about 350 - 400hp.

The uneven Watts link was less than ideal, but the super short angled upper arms are the big culprit in suspension bind and driveline angle change. Which is why a lot of guys don't run a rear swaybar, the bind already provides enough swaybar effect. After cycling the stock suspension a few times without springs I saw that it had a LOT of bind.

GySgtFrank · 01-13-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2gslse

I think your car is a very high quality build and very original, eventually I will need to do some major work to the rear to allow it to hook up and handle well. Just think I will have an egg under my foot on the dragon and you will be able to flat foot it all the way with the traction available.

Thanks, but it's pretty rough. Egg under foot.

Yeah, I can see that. It could be worse, you could still be on the 185/70 13s.

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Originally Posted by 2gslse

How many silver FB's you think will be there?

I know of at least three though, if I can get mine wrapped up in time.

BrettLinton7 · 01-14-2013, 04:00 PM

I really like the work you're putting into the rear end, the chopping and fabbing up on everything is awesome. I like the new wheels too!

GySgtFrank · 01-14-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BrettLinton7

I really like the work you're putting into the rear end, the chopping and fabbing up on everything is awesome. I like the new wheels too!

Thanks Brett, trying to provide your parts with a good home.

GySgtFrank · 01-23-2013, 05:07 PM

FINALLY! Got one side fabricated and welded in. Needs a lot of cleanup before I prime the rest of it and apply seam sealer. Some of my welds got mighty ugly, but they'll do the job.

wheel well front by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

wheel well rear by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

wheel well inside by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

speedjunkie · 01-25-2013, 02:50 AM

Ugly welds or not, that's awesome Gunny.

GySgtFrank · 01-25-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie

Ugly welds or not, that's awesome Gunny.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Not up to the par of your FD, but I'm trying. I really have to learn when not to get carried away.

drift_ratfc · 01-25-2013, 11:53 PM

great build!

fc nut · 01-26-2013, 08:15 PM

great work. i'd never have the patience or the nerve to go that far with a build. props man.

speedjunkie · 01-27-2013, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Not up to the par of your FD, but I'm trying. I really have to learn when not to get carried away.

I wasn't saying you had ugly welds, I was basically saying I couldn't tell from the pics whether they were ugly or not LOL, but it didn't matter because it's awesome regardless. And either way, they'd be better than anything I welded lol. Didn't realize you knew my car either lol.

GySgtFrank · 01-27-2013, 02:47 AM

Thanks guys. I've seen pictures of your car speedjunkie and it's very nice. Now if I could just remember where I saw them, I suffer from CRS (Can't Remember Shit)?

GySgtFrank · 02-04-2013, 09:54 PM

Wheel Well (other side) by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

Driver's side wheel housing fabricated, welded, and etching primer applied. Ready to bolt back in and weld tomorrow. Did my best to mirror the passenger side.

GySgtFrank · 02-12-2013, 04:53 AM

OK. I've spent way too much time on this part, but it's done, except for seam seal and undercoating. All fitted, welded, cleaned up, and primed. Have to build the enclosure for the third link in the middle and I'm done inside the car.

wheelwell LF by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

wheelwell LR by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

wheelwell RF by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

wheelwell RR by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

wheelwell inside Left by GySgtFrank, on Flickr
with spring perch installed.

It's amazing how much longer things take than what you had planned for.

infernosg · 02-12-2013, 10:30 AM

That's pretty damn awesome. This is giving me bad ideas of a SA/FB with the IRS out of a FC. The thought of my engine/drivetrain in a ligher chassis makes me drool. One project at a time...

01-13-2013, 11:18 AM	#47
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,013 Rep Power: 16	If we ever got them perfect, we'd probably be so bored we'd have to get a different project anyway. I like riding the edge of traction in corners so ironing out the suspension was a priority for me. Donuts are fun, but not when you run into stuff. I thought about using my 8.8, but the added unsprung weight was prohibitive. I plan on staying with the rotary so the GSL-SE rear should handle most power levels I'm likely to achieve. I can see where it's an absolute necessity with the power and torque yours will be putting down though. From what I've read the SE rears are fine up to about 350 - 400hp. The uneven Watts link was less than ideal, but the super short angled upper arms are the big culprit in suspension bind and driveline angle change. Which is why a lot of guys don't run a rear swaybar, the bind already provides enough swaybar effect. After cycling the stock suspension a few times without springs I saw that it had a LOT of bind. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

01-14-2013, 04:00 PM	#49
BrettLinton7 Mountain Man Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dahlonega, GA Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	I really like the work you're putting into the rear end, the chopping and fabbing up on everything is awesome. I like the new wheels too! __________________ -'93 BB Touring- Garage ornament -Had: 87 SE, 86 GXL, 91 'Vert, 85 GS, 87 GXL, 88 'Vert, 86 Sport, 89 GTU, 85 GSL-SE

01-23-2013, 05:07 PM	#51
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,013 Rep Power: 16	FINALLY! Got one side fabricated and welded in. Needs a lot of cleanup before I prime the rest of it and apply seam sealer. Some of my welds got mighty ugly, but they'll do the job. wheel well front by GySgtFrank, on Flickr wheel well rear by GySgtFrank, on Flickr wheel well inside by GySgtFrank, on Flickr __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

01-26-2013, 08:15 PM	#55
fc nut member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lebanon,Ohio Posts: 282 Rep Power: 18	great work. i'd never have the patience or the nerve to go that far with a build. props man. __________________ leaving my carbon footprint....one start up at a time

01-27-2013, 02:47 AM	#57
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,013 Rep Power: 16	Thanks guys. I've seen pictures of your car speedjunkie and it's very nice. Now if I could just remember where I saw them, I suffer from CRS (Can't Remember Shit)? __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

01-25-2013, 02:50 AM	#52
speedjunkie RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,089 Rep Power: 20	Ugly welds or not, that's awesome Gunny.

01-25-2013, 11:53 PM	#54
drift_ratfc The Newbie Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: WV Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	great build!

02-04-2013, 09:54 PM	#58
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,013 Rep Power: 16	Wheel Well (other side) by GySgtFrank, on Flickr Driver's side wheel housing fabricated, welded, and etching primer applied. Ready to bolt back in and weld tomorrow. Did my best to mirror the passenger side. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

02-12-2013, 04:53 AM	#59
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,013 Rep Power: 16	OK. I've spent way too much time on this part, but it's done, except for seam seal and undercoating. All fitted, welded, cleaned up, and primed. Have to build the enclosure for the third link in the middle and I'm done inside the car. wheelwell LF by GySgtFrank, on Flickr wheelwell LR by GySgtFrank, on Flickr wheelwell RF by GySgtFrank, on Flickr wheelwell RR by GySgtFrank, on Flickr wheelwell inside Left by GySgtFrank, on Flickr with spring perch installed. It's amazing how much longer things take than what you had planned for. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

02-12-2013, 10:30 AM	#60
infernosg IT'S ALIVE! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 811 Rep Power: 16	That's pretty damn awesome. This is giving me bad ideas of a SA/FB with the IRS out of a FC. The thought of my engine/drivetrain in a ligher chassis makes me drool. One project at a time... __________________ '86 Mazda RX-7 Base '79 Mazda RX-7 GS