Fenda's uber garage Engine Build - Page 21

Fendamonky · 02-24-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chibikougan

Was out one night and developed a terrible stumble. Thought I popped it would not idle. Next day runs fine for the next week started the teardown without finding out what. So I figure I might as well start over as the parts to rebuild should be very minimal. I hope....

The motor had break in miles I know as I did one oil change but i would be surprised if it has 3,000 on it.

Ah, gotcha. Wiring good, injectors ok, ignition happening right? Dude I don't know if I'd even crack that thing open...118/118/116 aint bad compression in the slightest...

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Originally Posted by Cheebz

Cool got a place nailed down at least.

Yeah, I've got a feeling that the Landlord/property rental company are going to be a pain in the dick... But ideally this will only be temporary, and we'll be able to move on to somewhere more permanent before the end of the summer. I can't WAIT to get all my finances in order and buy a house... I'll make sure it's got a big garage (with a high ceiling) and totally install a lift

Bianca wants a big kitchen (for more baking) and I want a big garage (for moar cars)... I think we'd be good with a 500sq/ft house if it had a 100sq/ft garage and a 50sq/ft kitchen

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Yeah, that was just me being a dick

No way for bearing material to get into the coolant system......

Fucking asshole

chibikougan · 02-24-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fendamonky

Ah, gotcha. Wiring good, injectors ok, ignition happening right? Dude I don't know if I'd even crack that thing open...118/118/116 aint bad compression in the slightest...

Yeah I hear ya my brain just doesn't want to leave it.

its a way off either way.. We can continue in BAW so we don't muddie your thread.

RXtacy · 02-25-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fendamonky

The only reason I wouldn't reuse them (provided they will take fresh bearings) is because RX-8 e-shaft. If I go with the 8 e-shaft I'll also go with the accompanying stat gears.

The RX-8 stat gears are the same as the FD. They are just cheaper to buy new.

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Yeah, that was just me being a dick

No way for bearing material to get into the coolant system......

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Originally Posted by Fendamonky

Fucking asshole

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Bianca wants a big kitchen (for more baking) and I want a big garage (for moar cars)... I think we'd be good with a 500sq/ft house if it had a 100sq/ft garage and a 50sq/ft kitchen

Math fail. Those are tiny spaces for both. Single car garage is ~336 sqft, and a 5'x10' kitchen would be terrible.

Fendamonky · 02-25-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RXtacy

The RX-8 stat gears are the same as the FD. They are just cheaper to buy new.

You sure? I thought the window alignment was slightly different.

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Originally Posted by Mike

Math fail. Those are tiny spaces for both. Single car garage is ~336 sqft, and a 5'x10' kitchen would be terrible.

Ok, so I screwed up on the dimensions off the top of my head...

RXtacy · 02-25-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fendamonky

You sure? I thought the window alignment was slightly different.

The front is identical, the rear doesn't have the oring grove so you have to use sealant. There's no "upgrade", other than they are cheaper new.

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-25-2014, 02:55 PM

Negative.... while the stat gears themselves are the same, the bearings are not. If mixing and matching 13B-REW and 13B-MSP eshaft and bearings, tolerances MUST be checked. Also, there is a taper in the rear of the MSP shaft, and like you said, there is no o-ring so it must be sealed. They are minor differences but they need to be addressed if you're a cheap fuck. If you just buy the MSP shaft and stat gear/bearing assemblies, you just slap them in.

RXtacy · 02-25-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Negative.... while the stat gears themselves are the same, the bearings are not. If mixing and matching 13B-REW and 13B-MSP eshaft and bearings, tolerances MUST be checked. Also, there is a taper in the rear of the MSP shaft, and like you said, there is no o-ring so it must be sealed. They are minor differences but they need to be addressed if you're a cheap fuck. If you just buy the MSP shaft and stat gear/bearing assemblies, you just slap them in.

Incorrect, the bearing part #'s are the same. The thickness ranges are the same. I do agree that clearance should be checked regardless though. If you recall MSP shaft in my FD stat gears checked out g2g.

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-25-2014, 03:24 PM

Yes, PN's are the same but when you buy a stat gear with bearing, the supplied bearings are of different clearances though.... at least the ones we got @ S1 were.... hence... they all need to be checked... or should... most people don't.... they just say... not enough copper showing to throw these away

Fendamonky · 02-25-2014, 05:17 PM

Wait... so if the metal gear itself is the same, and its just the bearings which are different... I could just pick up the rx-8 bearings to match the rx-8 eshaft??? I'm thinking pressing in the different bearings would be much cheaper than buying the entire set, IF it would work and that's really the only difference...

Yes?

Fendamonky · 02-25-2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RXtacy

The front is identical, the rear doesn't have the oring grove so you have to use sealant. There's no "upgrade", other than they are cheaper new.

I honestly don't plan on getting them as an "upgrade" but rather as a matching set for the 8 e-shaft. But if swapping bearings would make them all line up right...

Fendamonky · 02-25-2014, 07:08 PM

So I was reading over the FSM this evening when there was a knock at my door....

It was the Fedex guy

He brought me a little something-something..

A Wild Life Racing ECU has appeared!

RXtacy · 02-25-2014, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Yes, PN's are the same but when you buy a stat gear with bearing, the supplied bearings are of different clearances though.... at least the ones we got @ S1 were.... hence... they all need to be checked... or should... most people don't.... they just say... not enough copper showing to throw these away

This I would definitely believe. Would imagine they ship with the thicker range bearings due to the slightly smaller diameter of the MSP shaft. Completely agree they need to be checked.

RXtacy · 02-25-2014, 07:47 PM

Nice ECU Levi

Fendamonky · 02-25-2014, 08:15 PM

Thanks Mike

Now if only I hadn't recently gotten slammed with life expenses that stole all the money I was going to use for building this things harness (and engine)!! lol

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-26-2014, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fendamonky

So I was reading over the FSM this evening when there was a knock at my door....

It was the Fedex guy

He brought me a little something-something..

A Wild Life Racing ECU has appeared!

Make sure you pull all my pubes out of the connector that I left for you

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Originally Posted by RXtacy

This I would definitely believe. Would imagine they ship with the thicker range bearings due to the slightly smaller diameter of the MSP shaft. Completely agree they need to be checked.

Soooooo we're saying the same thing, you just like to argue?

02-25-2014, 02:55 PM	#306
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02-25-2014, 03:24 PM	#308
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Yes, PN's are the same but when you buy a stat gear with bearing, the supplied bearings are of different clearances though.... at least the ones we got @ S1 were.... hence... they all need to be checked... or should... most people don't.... they just say... not enough copper showing to throw these away __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**