Do not buy from znperformance!

[Mitchocalypse]

Everything between ZNPerformance and myself has been cleared up.

[zayrx7]

Rip you off seriously, you got all the parts you order from us plus 2 manifolds made.You didn't like the quality and bought something else, what do you want. We where just learning how to make manifold, so if you want we will send you our new design and better welding and you can sell it or use it. It's up too you this has been almost a year and you bring this up after we have talked about this a number of times.

[Fendamonky]

Originally Posted by zayrx7

Rip you off seriously, you got all the parts you order from us plus 2 manifolds made.You didn't like the quality and bought something else, what do you want. We where just learning how to make manifold, so if you want we will send you our new design and better welding and you can sell it or use it. It's up too you this has been almost a year and you bring this up after we have talked about this a number of times.

I think it would be considered poor business practice to sell customers your practice pieces...

[zayrx7]

it was not a practice pieces, it was mig weld and he wanted tig

[Fendamonky]

If you don't know what the hell you're doing, but you try it anyway, it's called practice.

If you sell said items to customers it is called selling your practice pieces.


If you had any respect for your customers, and pride in your work, then you would never allow such an item into a box bound for a paying customer.



My personal experience buying from you (and Jason) happened once, and ONLY once, back in 2007. Shitty shitty business practice back then, clearly you didn't give a fuck about me as a customer (even though I had just sent you $8,000 for parts) and honestly I wouldn't expect any more from you now based on your reaction here.

[Mitchocalypse]

Originally Posted by zayrx7

Rip you off seriously, you got all the parts you order from us plus 2 manifolds made.You didn't like the quality and bought something else, what do you want. We where just learning how to make manifold, so if you want we will send you our new design and better welding and you can sell it or use it. It's up too you this has been almost a year and you bring this up after we have talked about this a number of times.

haha.. really? was i supposed to like the quality? i've posted pictures of the crap a few places and everyone thought it was an absolute joke.

If you knew you didn't have any idea how to fab then you shouldn't be selling your crap.

I don't want your new design because i'm sure thats an abortion as well.

If you want me to leave a satisfied customer then you would refund me 100% for the fab work. I don't want your crap I just want my money which in a way you basically took.

I payed 2700 for a turbo kit. I received a turbo (value on your website = $1425) and some useless metal heaps. I then had to send you the old manifold back (along with many other things) which all in all cost ME minimum 150. However i did (somehow) manage to sell the crap you sent me locally for 75 bucks and felt very bad doing so and would have never done it if i didn't know the buyer knew exactly what he was doing.

So do the math.. 2700+150-75-1425 = 1325. That is basically the money I am out of pocket because of you. So now it's your turn. Tell us how I got what i paid for?

And should I post more manifold pictures or can you admit for once in your life that you fucked up?




And I'm well aware of how long it's been but time doesn't exactly put money back in my pocket does it? Do you honestly think i'm supposed to be remotely satisfied with my experience with you?

[Mitchocalypse]

It is embarassing that's why I made changes, I never really took a close look at the manifold, because I was so wrap up in building the website and traveling out of the country

Originally Posted by zayrx7

it was not a practice pieces, it was mig weld and he wanted tig

I like how you're defending a part that you made that gets mocked by everyone who sees it. This should be embarassing for you

[zayrx7]

No! you got Turbo, wastegate, lines and fittings.

Originally Posted by Mitchocalypse

haha.. really? was i supposed to like the quality? i've posted pictures of the crap a few places and everyone thought it was an absolute joke.

If you knew you didn't have any idea how to fab then you shouldn't be selling your crap.

I don't want your new design because i'm sure thats an abortion as well.

If you want me to leave a satisfied customer then you would refund me 100% for the fab work. I don't want your crap I just want my money which in a way you basically took.

I payed 2700 for a turbo kit. I received a turbo (value on your website = $1425) and some useless metal heaps. I then had to send you the old manifold back (along with many other things) which all in all cost ME minimum 150. However i did (somehow) manage to sell the crap you sent me locally for 75 bucks and felt very bad doing so and would have never done it if i didn't know the buyer knew exactly what he was doing.

So do the math.. 2700+150-75-1425 = 1325. That is basically the money I am out of pocket because of you. So now it's your turn. Tell us how I got what i paid for?

And should I post more manifold pictures or can you admit for once in your life that you fucked up?




And I'm well aware of how long it's been but time doesn't exactly put money back in my pocket does it? Do you honestly think i'm supposed to be remotely satisfied with my experience with you?

[Mitchocalypse]

Originally Posted by zayrx7

No! you got Turbo, wastegate, lines and fittings.

My mistake, I forgot the wastegate and the cheapest possible solution for lines there is. You sell the wastegate for 350. Lets say the lines retail for 50 which is WAY more than they actually do.. 2 feet of jegs braided hose, an adaptor and a foot of rubber hose.

So basically you are trying to defend yourself by saying "NO!! I don't owe you $1375!! I only owe you $975!!" Well I will gladly accept $975 and call it even.

You remember my paypal? you can send it to the same one.

[chibikougan]

Originally Posted by zayrx7

Rip you off seriously, you got all the parts you order from us plus 2 manifolds made.You didn't like the quality and bought something else, what do you want. We where just learning how to make manifold, so if you want we will send you our new design and better welding and you can sell it or use it. It's up too you this has been almost a year and you bring this up after we have talked about this a number of times.

What was sent was indeed a ripoff. Both tube things with flanges!

[chibikougan]

Any money or PM about a resolution before he left?

[Mitchocalypse]

Originally Posted by chibikougan

Any money or PM about a resolution before he left?

If this was directed at me then nope

[chibikougan]

Originally Posted by Mitchocalypse

If this was directed at me then nope

Yes it was.

Just ignoring it. Could have squashed both problems.

Looking into it more he may have ripped someone on an engine too. Hopefully they can chime in.

[Mitchocalypse]

Originally Posted by chibikougan

Yes it was.

Just ignoring it. Could have squashed both problems.

Looking into it more he may have ripped someone on an engine too. Hopefully they can chime in.

He's far more active on the other forum. I'll try to get him over here tomorrow morning. (The one missing the engine)

[Mazdabater]

Oh look he's in the bad vendor part of rx7 club too! http://m.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=1058475