Looking for PFC base map for ID 1000/2000 - Page 2

Mitchocalypse · 06-05-2014, 12:48 PM

Okay I will try to address every point you made tomorrow.

However if that doesn't get things working I'm still gonna want to hookup a pfc just for shits and giggles. Speaking of which - any progress on the base map peter?

About plugs being garbage after they foul though.. I hate being the guy who is asking for help, gets it and then proceeds to throw it back in your face but I don't think the plugs are a problem. Reason being, the "failure" point is just too consistent. Even with garbage plugs, I would expect the odd fire once it's past 2k, but there is absolutely nothing. And the fact that it cuts out at the exact same time every time just makes a "partial" plug failure seem unlikely. It's too synced. I say partial because they obviously still work fine below 2k so..

But thank you!
I at least have some trouble shooting ideas now.

***TitaniumTT*** · 06-05-2014, 01:02 PM

If your cal is setup in such a way that at 2k it goes pig fuck rich everytime @ 2k, than everytime you go to 2k it's going to miss and not fire....

I had a car with a wolf

that everytime you would get to about 3k it would cut out. Give it a little more throttle and it would come back to life.... floor it and it would stumble but rev.... found out that he had the secondaries wired to the primary circuit... so give it a little throttle and there would be enough vac to pull the fuel down the runners. crack the throttle and there wouldn't be enough vac to pull the fuel out of the secondaries because the primaries had all the airflow. Crack the secondary butterflies and viola, enough airflow through the sec runners to get the fuel into the chamber. I thought it was a tuning issue until I realized that everytime the secondary throttle cracked it would come to life....
point being it wasn't a tuning issue but a mechanical issue, yet it was always repeatable.

Seen the same with tuning issues because of fucked comps or just about anything else..... it's usually going to be repeatable regardless of the issue at hand.

Needs moar data.... make sure ecu isn't cutting something, make sure ecu has good signal at that point, make sure plugs are good, tune to 12.5-13 @ idle by adjusting base fpsi, rev it up see what happens.

Also.... make sure the thing is up to operating temp before trying to rev....

Mitchocalypse · 06-08-2014, 06:54 PM

LOL

chibikougan · 06-08-2014, 10:49 PM

OMP limp mode?

Also your hot bod is on display might wanna limit the photo sharing....

Or was that on purpose?

I like the interface for the link...

Prodigy · 06-08-2014, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchocalypse

LOL

Derp...

lol

Im really hoping this fixes your issue...

J.

Mitchocalypse · 06-08-2014, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chibikougan

OMP limp mode?

Also your hot bod is on display might wanna limit the photo sharing....

Or was that on purpose?

I like the interface for the link...

Oh fuck off lol. I'm so tech-retarded i don't have any special folders or anything on photobucket and 0 organization everything just gets put in the same place. when the pic is hyperlinked directly to the page i never really expect people to go through all my pics. But just for you i cleaned it up a bit. Theres probably worse like dick pics and all if you really wanted to do some digging

And yeah its omp related im guessing. only thing.. it says in the bottom that rpm is limited to 4500 rpm but cutting closer to 2000. It does overshoot to closer to 3 so it might cut earlier than 4500 just so it doesn't overshoot past that but who knows. This is obviously a problem and hopefully the big culprit im looking for.

I agree the interface once you got used to it would be pretty nice though. THeres a learning curve for everything though, it usually takes me a few mins to find where what i want to be displayed is but for sure once you're familiar with it its a clean layout.

Mitchocalypse · 06-09-2014, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodigy

Im really hoping this fixes your issue...

Likewise. It will fix something but i'm hoping it fixes everything

chibikougan · 06-09-2014, 12:21 AM

Haha it was the 2nd pic on the scroll through. Not complaining about man meat

I do believe rice still runs a mech OMP so it makes sense.

RICE RACING · 06-09-2014, 01:59 AM

I have sent instruction of software changes needed, touch wood no more limiting!!!

Mitchocalypse · 06-09-2014, 08:44 AM

I'm going to be the first to say though.. Let's assume that this does in fact fix the problem - a PFC would have made it work

Prodigy · 06-09-2014, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

touch wood

now you got Mitch all hot & bothered...

lol

J.

06-05-2014, 12:48 PM	#16
Mitchocalypse Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 179 Rep Power: 14	Okay I will try to address every point you made tomorrow. However if that doesn't get things working I'm still gonna want to hookup a pfc just for shits and giggles. Speaking of which - any progress on the base map peter? About plugs being garbage after they foul though.. I hate being the guy who is asking for help, gets it and then proceeds to throw it back in your face but I don't think the plugs are a problem. Reason being, the "failure" point is just too consistent. Even with garbage plugs, I would expect the odd fire once it's past 2k, but there is absolutely nothing. And the fact that it cuts out at the exact same time every time just makes a "partial" plug failure seem unlikely. It's too synced. I say partial because they obviously still work fine below 2k so.. But thank you! I at least have some trouble shooting ideas now. __________________

06-05-2014, 01:02 PM	#17
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	If your cal is setup in such a way that at 2k it goes pig fuck rich everytime @ 2k, than everytime you go to 2k it's going to miss and not fire.... I had a car with a wolf that everytime you would get to about 3k it would cut out. Give it a little more throttle and it would come back to life.... floor it and it would stumble but rev.... found out that he had the secondaries wired to the primary circuit... so give it a little throttle and there would be enough vac to pull the fuel down the runners. crack the throttle and there wouldn't be enough vac to pull the fuel out of the secondaries because the primaries had all the airflow. Crack the secondary butterflies and viola, enough airflow through the sec runners to get the fuel into the chamber. I thought it was a tuning issue until I realized that everytime the secondary throttle cracked it would come to life.... point being it wasn't a tuning issue but a mechanical issue, yet it was always repeatable. Seen the same with tuning issues because of fucked comps or just about anything else..... it's usually going to be repeatable regardless of the issue at hand. Needs moar data.... make sure ecu isn't cutting something, make sure ecu has good signal at that point, make sure plugs are good, tune to 12.5-13 @ idle by adjusting base fpsi, rev it up see what happens. Also.... make sure the thing is up to operating temp before trying to rev.... __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

06-08-2014, 06:54 PM	#18
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06-09-2014, 08:44 AM	#25
Mitchocalypse Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 179 Rep Power: 14	I'm going to be the first to say though.. Let's assume that this does in fact fix the problem - a PFC would have made it work __________________