Rice Racing M&W CDI COP Set-up

[RICE RACING]

Banged in a few fasteners

[Dannobre]

Can you post up the dimension from the face of the Housing..or the mounting point on the iron...to the back of the coils. Need to check how much room there is in my application.

It looks like they are approximately bounded by the width of the housings?

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by 2gslse

I do.

I'll talk to ya later

Kewl, I'll be on the rd tomorrow from ~2 till whenever the traffic releases me

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

Banged in a few fasteners

What size are the fasteners? I though the one on the center plate was an M6x1.0...

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Kewl, I'll be on the rd tomorrow from ~2 till whenever the traffic releases me



What size are the fasteners? I though the one on the center plate was an M6x1.0...

It is see pic

The fasteners are
M6x1 engine bracket
M5x0.8 coil spacers x 2
M8x1 OR 1/4 inch (have not decided yet) x 4 for the coils.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Dannobre

Can you post up the dimension from the face of the Housing..or the mounting point on the iron...to the back of the coils. Need to check how much room there is in my application.

It looks like they are approximately bounded by the width of the housings?

I posted up from the tip of the spark plug already, need to look for it.
I'll check for you later, its on page 2 or 3 or some shit.

[RICE RACING]

mung it

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

It is see pic

The fasteners are
M6x1 engine bracket

I see... I'm just an idiot....

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

M5x0.8 coil spacers x 2
M8x1 OR 1/4 inch (have not decided yet) x 4 for the coils.

It would be my preference to see an M8 there, however IIRC the bosses need to be honed for that to work.

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

This is a fabricated version of V3, I call this V4, cost should be much lower (well for the frame part anyway)! and I can offer the drawings (nominal fee) to people who are handy with a welder and a hammer! so they can make their own without guess work? just an idea.

The geometry and spacing is refined here in this version, for an expensive option on this will be a CNC smooth gag factor engine mount and coil spacers similar to the last pictures of V3 but I wont do this for a week or so as I am at CAD overload stage and

Looks awesome Peter... really really awesome...

Have you contacted any of the vendors stateside to see if they have an interest in distributing? I was going to do this with the MAP sensor mounts.... IF I EVER GET THEM :beatdeadhorse:

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

want to punch the screen with much intensity!

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

Too much other tuning and engine work to do so will be back on this in a week or so and let you know updates, hope there is enough info here for people to see wtf they want and we will go from there!

PG

I'm down, Levi seems down (And no, it won't delay the start of the LR instal

[knonfs]

WOW, the mounts look effin AWESOME!

Peter, what are your thoughts on the ign-1a coil vs stock coils with a HKW twin power? stock coils with CDI boxes (MSD/crane)?

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by knonfs

WOW, the mounts look effin AWESOME!

Peter, what are your thoughts on the ign-1a coil vs stock coils with a HKW twin power? stock coils with CDI boxes (MSD/crane)?

Thanks man, shit is getting out of control
I have finalized V3 design into two sub sets, one CNC made the other fabricated (I am talking about the coil spacers and engine mounting bracket here) the COP's are standardized.
I am trying to help the DIY'ers out there as well as those on a budget too how want champagne @ a beer price! .....

A sneak pic below (once I finalize all this shit I will smash it up on the front page/first post) to save confusion of so many fucking CAD iterations!)


On the question of merits or recommendations on each system?
The HKS DLI and OEM coils work fantastic, I have my own dwell settings for the PFC which I put into this set up (my supported consultancy customers get this!) that allows that set up to run my RRWEP140 at a high rate and LOTS of power with a heavy target fuel mixture as well! ............. so it is very hard to beat that system, however without the correct dwell settings it will not work with water injection.

So then you are left to try these types of coils, these seem to work, and lots use them, thus me wasting my time designing and making all of this shit lol

Finally CDI, I dont care what anyone says after 20 years + doing this stuff NOTHING beats a proper CDI set up, the ultimate is M@W twin box system in pro drag spec (twin box allows it to be used in street ap without over heating) and their CDI coils, will fire anything and is used in all the most powerful methanol fueled cars on the planet.

[RICE RACING]

mung it

[Dannobre]

Work on getting a simplified machined piece without all the pretty curves and make enough to bring the price down...they will sell like hotcakes

Don't get me wrong...I like the pretty ones..but they are going to be much more expensive to machine

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Dannobre

Work on getting a simplified machined piece without all the pretty curves and make enough to bring the price down...they will sell like hotcakes

Don't get me wrong...I like the pretty ones..but they are going to be much more expensive to machine

Already done

V3V-GHETTO

Pics to follow once I finalize it
It will be a fabricated version, so people can weld it up to drawing specs or I may even TIG them together myself..........

[RICE RACING]

mung it

[Dannobre]

LOL...if you are making both I like the pretty ones....

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Dannobre

LOL...if you are making both I like the pretty ones....

First post update with the 3 versions locked down and ready to go to next stage.

Get an idea of numbers of people interested and I can see if volume makes 2 fucks worth of difference in getting them made

Over this shit for now, no more request LOL.