Apexi FC Tuning .

yteemzayed · 01-08-2015, 03:42 PM

Hello Everyone ,

i am kinda new to the rotary engine mods and tuning , and my FD got a Apexi FC and the tuning ruined idk why , and most of the garage's here don't work on rotary engines , could someone tell me , is it different from normal piston tuning ? and if yes , why ?

- mine doesn't have much mods ,

the mods are : Blitz intercooler
, intake
, 1600 bosch injector
, walbro fuel pump .

Fendamonky · 01-08-2015, 03:53 PM

Where do you live?

I'm NOT a tuner, though we've got plenty floating around on here. That being said, from what I've heard the rotary is def a bit different than standard piston engine tuning. I think it boils down to the timing split required and staging the different sized injectors.

Obviously you'd be better off with legit advice on the differences coming from one of the members on here that tune for a living.

RETed · 01-08-2015, 03:58 PM

Tuning process is the same.
Base maps can be significantly different.

-Ted

Fendamonky · 01-08-2015, 04:03 PM

^ Go with what Ted said

RICE RACING · 01-08-2015, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yteemzayed

Hello Everyone ,

i am kinda new to the rotary engine mods and tuning , and my FD got a Apexi FC and the tuning ruined idk why , and most of the garage's here don't work on rotary engines , could someone tell me , is it different from normal piston tuning ? and if yes , why ?

- mine doesn't have much mods ,

the mods are : Blitz intercooler
, intake
, 1600 bosch injector
, walbro fuel pump .

These days with the internet you are best off paying someone like me to do this remotely for you, see my web site for examples on main page.

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-08-2015, 04:59 PM

What Rice Racing said....
You don't want someone who does piston engine shit to tune a rotary, there are too many variables.
You basically have two options, find some who has dealt with rotaries for decades, has worked or owned a rotary shop, has a running car that has survived years of abuse, (track and street) makes actual HP and runs and drives like a stock car, and can prove it to you. These people will tune your car on the dyno and street.
Someone like RR can SCIENTIFICALLY tune your car via emails and sending MAPS where as most tuners (me included) tune on the dyno/street.

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-08-2015, 04:59 PM

Where are you located?

yteemzayed · 01-08-2015, 05:04 PM

i am from Dubai :X

RETed · 01-08-2015, 05:38 PM

Road TRIP!

-Ted

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-08-2015, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yteemzayed

i am from Dubai :X

Yeah, Peter (Rice Racing) is the/your man for the job

yteemzayed · 01-08-2015, 05:55 PM

I'll contact you RR

RICE RACING · 01-08-2015, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yteemzayed

I'll contact you RR

Too easy. Just go to my page and click on the link, it will automatically fill out the email message for you

RICE RACING · 01-08-2015, 07:14 PM

Here is example of a 'consultancy customers file'............ It's extensive and NOT a typical 'mail order tune' from some f*ckwit

^ Just sent this now to a US customer who ordered a RRWEP140 water injection kit and tuning support

Had a customer yesterday who ran 9.27 seconds at 149mph in his road car in New Zealand he gags over the WI and tuning advise I give

Little report changed customers rx3 finally from c16 to wm50 98 petrol ran it last nights test and tune pb'd with a 9.27 at 149mph bettering the c16 time of 9.34 stoked as Dean. Boost was 33.5psi
It took a while to sort on the dyno had alot of rich missfiring so was showing it as lean on afr, likes to be around 10.8s to 11.5s seems to have a big window when tuning, cleaned up the top end at the track and it took off.I have not tuned any on straight water so are thinking that straight water can tune richer.
- Original Message -----
Hey pete that timing map i got off you a while back, is that working from a static of tdc. So 3.8bar 40.6psi you running 7.75 degrees and on what rotors. Don't worry all confidential thanks Dean. fuking love this water. Owner can't believe how cheap it is to run.
----- Original Message -----

Lex · 01-13-2015, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

Too easy. Just go to my page and click on the link, it will automatically fill out the email message for you

Hello,

Your website is very hard to navigate and I can't seem to find the link to email you. I'm looking for PFC tuning as well. Does your service require a datalogit to pull logs. I'm new to rotaries and engine tuning all together.

Thanks,

Alex

RICE RACING · 01-13-2015, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex

Hello,

Your website is very hard to navigate and I can't seem to find the link to email you. I'm looking for PFC tuning as well. Does your service require a datalogit to pull logs. I'm new to rotaries and engine tuning all together.

Thanks,

Alex

Hi Alex,

I am not an internet person, I just smash up as much detail as I can and have it simple enough, out of 10 people one will say what you are, the other 9 will say its sicker than tits............ so I leave the web site as is to suit the majority who love it.

Now onto your question:
* You will need a datalogit
* You will need some familiarity with computers
* You will need an AFR instrument hooked into the datalogit (one that your trust)

If you meet all that criteria then I can help you.

The other thing I do is send out programmed ECU's so it has a base in it that you can take to your local person or you yourself can screw around with on the hand set interface.

E-Mail me for details on that.

Peter

01-08-2015, 03:42 PM	#1
yteemzayed The Newbie Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Apexi FC Tuning . Hello Everyone , i am kinda new to the rotary engine mods and tuning , and my FD got a Apexi FC and the tuning ruined idk why , and most of the garage's here don't work on rotary engines , could someone tell me , is it different from normal piston tuning ? and if yes , why ? - mine doesn't have much mods , the mods are : Blitz intercooler , intake , 1600 bosch injector , walbro fuel pump .

01-08-2015, 04:59 PM	#6
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	What Rice Racing said.... You don't want someone who does piston engine shit to tune a rotary, there are too many variables. You basically have two options, find some who has dealt with rotaries for decades, has worked or owned a rotary shop, has a running car that has survived years of abuse, (track and street) makes actual HP and runs and drives like a stock car, and can prove it to you. These people will tune your car on the dyno and street. Someone like RR can SCIENTIFICALLY tune your car via emails and sending MAPS where as most tuners (me included) tune on the dyno/street. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

01-08-2015, 04:59 PM	#7
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Where are you located? __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

01-08-2015, 07:14 PM	#13
RICE RACING Don Mega Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Utopia Posts: 1,688 Rep Power: 18	Here is example of a 'consultancy customers file'............ It's extensive and NOT a typical 'mail order tune' from some fckwit ^ Just sent this now to a US customer who ordered a RRWEP140 water injection kit and tuning support Had a customer yesterday who ran 9.27 seconds at 149mph in his road car in New Zealand he gags over the WI and tuning advise I give Little report changed customers rx3 finally from c16 to wm50 98 petrol ran it last nights test and tune pb'd with a 9.27 at 149mph bettering the c16 time of 9.34 stoked as Dean. Boost was 33.5psi It took a while to sort on the dyno had alot of rich missfiring so was showing it as lean on afr, likes to be around 10.8s to 11.5s seems to have a big window when tuning, cleaned up the top end at the track and it took off.I have not tuned any on straight water so are thinking that straight water can tune richer. - Original Message ----- Hey pete that timing map i got off you a while back, is that working from a static of tdc. So 3.8bar 40.6psi you running 7.75 degrees and on what rotors. Don't worry all confidential thanks Dean. fuking love this water. Owner can't believe how cheap it is to run. ----- Original Message ----- __________________ www.riceracing.com.au* Worlds best Apex Seals Coil on Plug Water Injection ECU Calibration

01-08-2015, 05:04 PM	#8
yteemzayed The Newbie Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	i am from Dubai :X

01-08-2015, 05:55 PM	#11
yteemzayed The Newbie Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	I'll contact you RR