Project86- My first (and probably not the last) Rebuild

[project86]

Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

One of the folks in St. Louis is working on some. He posted this on the STL RX Club facebook page. It sounds like they're still trying to work out the bugs with manufacturing and testing. It looks like it uses a common screw-in ball joint.


https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...61&oe=552944FC

Stu Kelly

Meeting Monday for a partnership with a new CNC shop to help bring these joints to you all sooner. Our original CNC shop was a relationship with broken promises, so I apologize to all who were waiting for these products. Thank you for your support and patience, sorry this has taken so long.
Once we have sets of each version made we will be taking applications for testers to get their hands on these before anyone else. We will announce when testing will start and more info on how to become a tester. Lets plan on this announcement for the end of January early February

We will be offering three versions of these joints and each version will help to correct roll center.

These ball joints are for the Series 4 Rx7 FC but can be used on Series 5 control arm with some cutting and drilling.

The pricing of these joints will be around $300 and will include new ball joints, mounting bolts, and have the ball joints already pressed in plug and play style.

Here are the details of each version.

Version 1 will have slots allowing for incremental extensions up to 1.5" fully extended.

Version 2 will have fixed holes for stock positioning and 1.5" extended positioning.

Version 3 (for an additional price) will be fixed holes at any extension amount you would like up to 2.0" extended. For example a joint extended approx 1.675" from factory.

The picture is of Version 1 with slots and Version 2 with stock 1.5" extended holes.

Those look pretty nice. I missing why i would need to extend them though?

[GySgtFrank]

Originally Posted by project86

Those look pretty nice. I missing why i would need to extend them though?

I think that part is mainly for the drifter crowd to get lots of negative camber. If they accept stock positioning they should work. I believe MazdaTrix also sells the stock replacement arms with the ball joints already pressed in.

[project86]

Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

I think that part is mainly for the drifter crowd to get lots of negative camber. If they accept stock positioning they should work. I believe MazdaTrix also sells the stock replacement arms with the ball joints already pressed in.

they do indeed.. for $77 a side. Ill probably be ordering them soon. I need to clean up the hubs first too. I wanna get all the front end stuff taken care of while i have the front of the car up on stands.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

One of the folks in St. Louis is working on some. He posted this on the STL RX Club facebook page. It sounds like they're still trying to work out the bugs with manufacturing and testing. It looks like it uses a common press-in ball joint.


https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...61&oe=552944FC

Oh my oh my..... sexy....

However... looking at Gunny here... how would those affect roll center... I'm failing to see that...

Originally Posted by project86

they do indeed.. for $77 a side. Ill probably be ordering them soon. I need to clean up the hubs first too. I wanna get all the front end stuff taken care of while i have the front of the car up on stands.

Bah... are they replaceable after the fact?

Wait.... wut? I'm not seeing those... I'm just seeing the replacement ball joints...

[project86]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Bah... are they replaceable after the fact?

Wait.... wut? I'm not seeing those... I'm just seeing the replacement ball joints...

Im confused... what are you asking me?

http://www.mazdatrix.com/hsteer2.htm

this is what I'm talking about.

[TitaniumTT]

Ohyeah..... wheels and shit...

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by project86

Im confused... what are you asking me?

http://www.mazdatrix.com/hsteer2.htm

this is what I'm talking about.

Yeah, those.... the way Gunny was talking made it sound like they had a solution that allowed an aftermkt ball joint to be replaced and it was already pressed in...

[GySgtFrank]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Oh my oh my..... sexy....

However... looking at Gunny here... how would those affect roll center... I'm failing to see that...



Bah... are they replaceable after the fact?

Wait.... wut? I'm not seeing those... I'm just seeing the replacement ball joints...

I have no idea. I just saw them talking about them the other day and when he started asking about aftermarket alternatives I remembered these. I had to do a little searching to find it. I don't have much need for FC parts so I didn't really think too much about it, but they looked kind of cool so I thought it worth passing on to those that do.

[project86]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Ohyeah..... wheels and shit...

How much do you want for the wheels?

Also... since I'm using the hubs from an S5 car do i need S5 ball joints? because if i do there is a note on mazdatrix that says the S5 ball joints only come on the S5 control arms...... and those are really pricey....

[GySgtFrank]

Originally Posted by project86

Im confused... what are you asking me?

http://www.mazdatrix.com/hsteer2.htm

this is what I'm talking about.

Don't worry about it. He has problems following conversations covering more than one item at a time.

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Yeah, those.... the way Gunny was talking made it sound like they had a solution that allowed an aftermkt ball joint to be replaced and it was already pressed in...

I said the MazdaTrix ones were the stock replacement. The others were for aftermarket ball joints if they ever make it into production.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

I have no idea. I just saw them talking about them the other day and when he started asking about aftermarket alternatives I remebered these. I had to do a little searching to find it. I don't have much need for FC parts so I didn't really think too much about it, but they looked kind of cool so I thought it worth passing on to those that do.

They're sexy... but I don't see them solving the two biggest issues with the FC suspension in the front.

Originally Posted by project86

How much do you want for the wheels?

I was asking $700 on fleabay and cl... got many a bite on cl but no one came through with cash in hand...

Originally Posted by project86

Also... since I'm using the hubs from an S5 car do i need S5 ball joints? because if i do there is a note on mazdatrix that says the S5 ball joints only come on the S5 control arms...... and those are really pricey....

No... If you're using S4 control arms than you need S4 joints. hubs/knuckles don't care which series

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

Don't worry about it. He has problems following conversations covering more than one item at a time.

While she's at it I'm gonna have Maggie cut you once for me too

Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

I said the MazdaTrix ones were the stock replacement. The others were for aftermarket ball joints if they ever make it into production.

You're confusing for an old man

[project86]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

I was asking $700 on fleabay and cl... got many a bite on cl but no one came through with cash in hand...

I need cheap (free *cough cough*) wheels so i can afford to buy all these expensive factory replacement parts for my front end

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

No... If you're using S4 control arms than you need S4 joints. hubs/knuckles don't care which series

good to know.. I'm gonna buy them tomorrow probably i suppose/guess/think

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by project86

I need cheap (free *cough cough*) wheels so i can afford to buy all these expensive factory replacement parts for my front end

Yeah.... that's about $800 worth of tire so I won't be freeing those anytime soon... especially when FrankenB needs some wheels/tires...

Originally Posted by project86

good to know.. I'm gonna buy them tomorrow probably i suppose/guess/think

Yeah... they don't care... balljoints go with arms. kuckles and hubs can go on either...

[project86]

Im thinking of sending my single piston calipers in to mazdatrix as cores and getting rebuilt 4 piston ones. Sending in cores makes the price for the rebuilds about $128 per side. Do you think thats worth it or would i be better off getting a good used set of 4pist calipers and getting a rebuild kit? I guess more clearly what I'm asking is do you think mazdatrix is just taking old calipers and doing the rebuild kit for you or are you getting more than that for the price?