87 TII, TECgt, T04-R....DGRR '09 build!

[TehMonkay]

Newer laptops can be a bitch with that stuff, thats why i bought an older thinkpad with a serial port.

[classicauto]

Originally Posted by TehMonkay

Newer laptops can be a bitch with that stuff, thats why i bought an older thinkpad with a serial port.

Yea I flip flopped between buying an old refurbished dell with a serial port vs. the one I have now.....the cost was the same for new vs. refurbished so I went the route I did (it has XP though, no vista for me) but sometimes shit happens....I *think* i've got it figured out though with registry fixes and a few little things that my friend did that I do not understand at all

Damn Joe, sorry to hear that. WTF is up with our luck? Are we just cursed? Did we burn down city hall and rape the mayors wife in a former life? Maybe torture some animals or sell kids into prostitution? I don't get it.

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

At least you're in good spirits about the thing. I tend to look at "failures" as a way to learn and make things stronger. So I'm glad to hear you're not giving up. I think most people would have by this point. After my motor blew, and after we pulled apart the donor and saw the clusterfuck ahead of us I just started blurting out everything that we needed to do and the parts that I needed to buy, A very good friend who helped out alot looked @ me and said, "jeez Bri, you just don't know when to quit do you."
Without even thinking I responded with, "Nope, and it's a strength that most don't have."

Looks like you have that strength too Joe. Good luck and we demand pics of the carnage

Yea I was reading your thread yesterday and caught some wind of an overheat or something? I have no idea what it is, I think maybe if you're the type to never give up, life gets pissed off and throws all kinds of crap your way. But I'm sure you'd agree that rotary failures do not equal life failures - and in life I'm a very lucky man.

And you shall see pics of the carnage for sure. Just have to get at 'er...

Originally Posted by FC3Smurray

Ah this is no sweat for you now bro. Sucks but it does bring a sense of excitement. I just found a crack on my rear iron AND I TOO am excited about this new little hic-up.

It is nice to know that your blow out was from a simple brain fart and NOT some unknown mechanical bad joo-joo failure. Much better luck 4 you given your past head aches.

I have come to the realization that this is what comes with DIY high HP rotary tuning/building. Deal with it or go home.

Good luck with this build bro.

Cracked iron! Dayum, thats new territory for me. I'm more of a chipped seal and or completely missing seal guy But I hear ya, thanks for the kind words.

Originally Posted by Dregg100

damnit joe, you are not aloud to blow anymore engines!! maybe when you put the NRS ceramics in that will be good luck for you and it will be a long laster!!(is that even a word?)

good to see you are too down about it. so what do you think caused it? no water at 20 psi?

Thats what I told the car when I put in the TECgt!! But like I said I'm alot happier about this type of failure then the previous ones. And on the note of the ceramics.......

I just measured up all my housings this morning that I'm using on the build (used, but almost new) and I found a couple of things thats making me lean away from playing my ceramic seal card. One housing has a *TINY* little sliver of a crack just starting around thespark plug boss....and the other housing has a nick in the compression section from the blown engine in florida last year. They will work fine (I've had both inside engines already) but I don't want to waste my ceraimc seal on a housing that won't bed into the seal fully. Apparently, thats what happens - the housings break into the seal, not the other way around like normally

And I don't currently have the bread for OEM housings so I think I'll just stick some more OEM seals back in this and save them for another build. This engine lasted a while on my shitty tuning and with a lot of BAD things happening to it. If I get the rest of the season out of another OEM seal engine with a solid tune - I'll be happy.

The failure I think was yes, mostly attributed to lack of water. I think though, that I damaged something when I got my car running at full boost/RPM when I got back from the road trip though. After that night of tuning I was driving back and noticed a little bit of a miss when cruising. I thought it was plugs (and they were shot.....) but they didn't make the miss go away. And after that, I'd ran it out at full song maybe half a dozen more times before it popped......maybe I'd cracked something, and then it completely fell out later on. But, lets count:

I tuned some (not much) boost aroudn here
We tuned all around the dragon
I tuned on the way to and from florida
Tuned once around here
Tuned twice around here (when I think I damaged something)

And you know what my tuning is like masin! *floors car, takes off, engine floods with 9.00:1AFR* Repeat, and the same happens, but this time 500rpm later I'd cleared it up about 90% around here, but still - thats alot of stress to put on the thing. There's probably 4 tanks of fuel used just hammering it trying to sort out the fuel......

With the water though it may have still been running - who knows. I can't fault my build though, I had sworn up and down that thing was blown 3 or 4 times before when all the fuel pump fuse crap went down.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by classicauto

Yea I was reading your thread yesterday and caught some wind of an overheat or something? I have no idea what it is, I think maybe if you're the type to never give up, life gets pissed off and throws all kinds of crap your way. But I'm sure you'd agree that rotary failures do not equal life failures - and in life I'm a very lucky man.

Yeah, the short story is I was @ the dyno until 9:30 Tuesday night before DGRR pounding the snot out of the motor when she had about 700 miles on her but pulling 18-19" of vac. Thursday morning @ 10:30 ... as in leave for DGRR in 2.5 hours I went for an emmisions test. Emmisions for non OBD-II cars in CT is a 25-30 mph roll. The jackass that did the test held her in 1st gear @ 6000rpm's+ for about 4+ minutes. They popped the turbo feed oil line which started the smoke, I jumped over the counter into the bays and started screaming to shut her down. Coolant and oil temps were >230 and hit about 260 from soaking. Now she pulls ~14" vac. Warped apex seal, flattened spring, damaged housing, who knows. She still breaks the 255/40 RT-615's loose in 2nd though.

After alot of screaming from the manager telling me there's something wrong with my car for it to overheat like that, and me explaining that on the highway my t-stat doesn't open and sits @ 170-175*, you assholes don't have a fan and closed the hood, calling the owner of the company and getting a few formal apologies, it's going through insurance and they owe me a new motor as far as I'm concerned.

So I got the car home, good friend came over to help out, the peeps I was caravaning with drove to my place. We repaired the oil line, flushed the coolant, changed the oil, replaced the water pump and got on the road for DGRR @ midnight... fun times. Oh, I hadn't slept the night before either so by the time I passed out @ 4:30 friday morning I had broken my record and gone 44.5 hours strait with no sleep.. woot! /jack

So yeah, bad joo-joo I guess and life keeps throwing up blocks and we just keep charging through them.

Originally Posted by classicauto

And you shall see pics of the carnage for sure. Just have to get at 'er...

Please do, I'm kinda curious as to what actually failed. One thing that I don't like about the water or alky injection systems is that they are totally independant of the main EMS. Is there anyway to have a switched input with the Tec? What I'm thinking is a switch that's basically high/low boost settings. Low boost = no water. High boost = water. And then have an output from the Tec control the water injection. This way you can run the maps two different ways and the Tec is always in charge of everything. Boost control outside of the EMS is somthing else that kinda doesn't give me warm and fuzzy feelings but at least that is something that can be managed with proper tuning.

Make sense? I'm whooped and not sure if this is logical.

As far as Laptops, I just bought today a new Toshiba from BestBuy for $400 soley for the 7. I was sick and tired of the Dell randomly shutting itself off and for $400 to end a headache, it's worth it. The last time it shut off I was about to turn the "ignition switch" off VIA the Motec. Had I done that and then the laptop shit the bed.... I would've had to move my desktop into the garage for the sole purpose of turning the "ignition switch" back on. Now I can't get online to DL all the programs that I need